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Old 03-28-2017, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Aura224 View Post
At what they pay? No chance. I spent 10 years going into debt while working for regionals and I reached a financial breaking point while waiting for upgrade. FSI offered me more than 3x my salary and I jumped. Into my 3rd year at FSI and I'm making what the average RJ Captain does.

I spent 9 years in the right seat at Republic, I more than paid my dues. I can take a contract corporate gig if necessary to get recent flight time, but I will never see a regional again. That being said, I never looked at FSI as a career choice. I would still love to fly for a major but I can't sacrifice the financial security of my wife and two kids to do that.
9 years in the right seat at republic? Why didn't you upgrade?
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:35 PM
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I know the pay at regionals lags, but the ads that pop on this very site are all promising sign on/stay on bonuses and things that should get you somewhat closer to what you're making now. You're free to apply to apply to AA, but I don't see you as a competitive applicant.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:54 PM
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You are not competitive right now. Blunt, yes. However, it is what it is. You need recently of experience and Turbine PIC, and you don't have either. Plus, your TT for a civilian is only middle of the road. Find yourself at least 1,000 PIC Turbine on top of your current time, and you might be competitive.
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Old 03-29-2017, 02:18 AM
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I flew for a regional for 9 years and a commuter turboprop for a year before that. 6000TT, 5500 turbine. No TPIC though. For the last 2 1/2 years I've been working as an instructor/examiner at FlightSafety. Thinking of applying at AA. I left the regionals because I financially couldn't support my family. FSI is nice but its not flying. I'll shovel dirt before I go to a regional again. I have multiple types on an ATP. Will the lack of recent "real" aircraft flying hurt? I'm current per all the regs, 135Ck airman for 4 companies and have type authority on 2 aircraft programs. Thanks.
First and foremost, it never hurts to apply. You sound like a really talented and hard working guy, someone who would be great to fly with. I admire your dedication to wife and family. Although you have sacrificed in the past it probably won't be relevant to the here and now. So without competitive qualifications in the current environment the odds are stacked up against you. All I know about those hired I read right here on the forum. I can tell you from my position as a senior line captain, there isn't a lot that can be done by knowing someone. This may change in the future when the retirements start kicking in and demand increases, but still I don't see more than a one to one replacement based on attrition. Depending on your age you might wait it out. There are so many factors out there that could change hiring for the worse that I would just ask you to be realistic in your goals. I would say that to the new hires as well. Be prepared for worst outcome and hopefully you are surprised by the best. Good Luck in whatever you decide.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:24 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate the insight. There's just a lot of pilot chatter going around about the "pilot shortage" but I interpreted this as a Regional pilot shortage and just wanted to gauge the landscape at the majors.

I was one of the unfortunate ones to get hired at Republic, get furloughed, recalled and endure stagnant movement for 3 years. The ironic part about it is that literally 2 months after I left, an upgrade award came out that would have had my name on it. But hey, everything happens for a reason and FSI has actually advanced my knowledge and skill in aviation beyond what I thought possible after the thousands of hours in 121 ops. And no, I do not count sim time in my logbook LOL!

I am aware of AA's pay and work rules and pay is the only reason I left Republic. I actually love the lifestyle and AA's work rules are better than what we had. I've actually always wanted to fly for American, the merger just made it sweeter since I'm from the Philly area. I just recently got a fly for pay contract with one of our clients and should get to do some flying soon. I'll keep tabs on the market.

Thanks again.
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Old 03-29-2017, 08:05 PM
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9 years in the right seat at republic? Why didn't you upgrade?
I just spent 10 years in the right seat at XJT. Finally awarded a CA seat. (Yes it took that long) Some of the regonials that seamed like the right place to go, became a dead end. If (actually when) XJT goes under and I haven't secured a job with a major, I'm not sure I have enough steam in me to start over again at another regional. Many of us are in a critical position. This supposed pilot shortage has been, at least, partly self-induced.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:35 PM
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I think most of the majors will require recent flying experience in the past 12 months to be competitive. But you never know!
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:27 AM
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Why limit yourself to AA? How about going to a LCC or ACMI cargo and then a major if that's still what you wanted? I'm not certain AA has the best thing going out there right now and even if it did, all that can change.
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Old 03-30-2017, 11:17 AM
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It's funny you say you won't go to a regional to get current, and that's what 99% of the people on here would tell you to do.
That's not funny at all. Some of us would rather have our eye sockets soldered shut than fly for a regional. Not funny in the least.

There's more than one road to Rome, you know.

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There's just a lot of pilot chatter going around about the "pilot shortage" but I interpreted this as a Regional pilot shortage and just wanted to gauge the landscape at the majors.
There's no pilot shortage. There has never been a pilot shortage. There is not likely to be one, despite Kit Darby's lying rhetoric.

That "chatter" is among those whom you might be better off ignoring.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by C17turtle View Post
I hate to say it, but I think you should have gutted out the regionals a little longer to pick up that much needed PIC time. The guys you are competing with for the remaining AA slots after the flows get theirs are regional Captains and military pilots with 1000s of hours of PIC time. Plus, you don't have actual flying recency of experience. Despite your good record, I don't see you as competitive.

If you don't care for the regionals, I would consider the corporate route to get recency of experience and pick up at least 500 PIC to make you competitive.
Don't hate on the guy..been at a regional for 17 years..tons of PIC time..clean record..several recommendations..8 months since app..crickets
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