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Old 04-11-2017, 07:11 PM
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I need a few expert opinions.
I am 58 years old and I have not flown for twenty years. I am considering trying to get back in to flying and get a job with a regional airline or 135 operation.
At the time I had just completed ATR42 training with Continental Express, then after training a large group of us were laid off because of corporate changes. I didn't return, I couldn't support my family on a pilot's wage twenty years ago. I have 1825 hrs.TT, 625hrs.ME, 30hrs. turbine, 250X-Country,55hrs. night, and 40hrs. Instrument simulated . I am also much more financially stable than 20 years ago.
My questions is, would I stand a chance in today's market and what should I do to get started?
Thank you for any input or advice.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:17 PM
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I need a few expert opinions.
I am 58 years old and I have not flown for twenty years. I am considering trying to get back in to flying and get a job with a regional airline or 135 operation.
At the time I had just completed ATR42 training with Continental Express, then after training a large group of us were laid off because of corporate changes. I didn't return, I couldn't support my family on a pilot's wage twenty years ago. I have 1825 hrs.TT, 625hrs.ME, 30hrs. turbine, 250X-Country,55hrs. night, and 40hrs. Instrument simulated . I am also much more financially stable than 20 years ago.
My questions is, would I stand a chance in today's market and what should I do to get started?
Thank you for any input or advice.
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You need 100 hours night and 75 hours instrument to qualify for an ATP. Other than that pick a regional with a good contract that will allow you to live in base or have a relatively easy commute.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:21 PM
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I need a few expert opinions.
I am 58 years old and I have not flown for twenty years. I am considering trying to get back in to flying and get a job with a regional airline or 135 operation.
At the time I had just completed ATR42 training with Continental Express, then after training a large group of us were laid off because of corporate changes. I didn't return, I couldn't support my family on a pilot's wage twenty years ago. I have 1825 hrs.TT, 625hrs.ME, 30hrs. turbine, 250X-Country,55hrs. night, and 40hrs. Instrument simulated . I am also much more financially stable than 20 years ago.
My questions is, would I stand a chance in today's market and what should I do to get started?
Thank you for any input or advice.
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If you're willing to, absolutely. They will take as many warm and competent bodies as they can. As for which regional- depends on where you live and other factors. You will need to get more night hrs, instrument hours and definitely become instrument proficient. Lots has changed in 20 years. Pilot certificates may not expire, but proficiency sure as hell does. I had a 20 year USAF KC-135 instructor fail out of training and he hadn't been in a cockpit in 8 years. Not saying that means anything, but he was "trying" to get back in the game too.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:39 PM
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I need a few expert opinions.
I am 58 years old and I have not flown for twenty years. I am considering trying to get back in to flying and get a job with a regional airline or 135 operation.
At the time I had just completed ATR42 training with Continental Express, then after training a large group of us were laid off because of corporate changes. I didn't return, I couldn't support my family on a pilot's wage twenty years ago. I have 1825 hrs.TT, 625hrs.ME, 30hrs. turbine, 250X-Country,55hrs. night, and 40hrs. Instrument simulated . I am also much more financially stable than 20 years ago.
My questions is, would I stand a chance in today's market and what should I do to get started?
Thank you for any input or advice.
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You know, if you have no debts why not do it? Also with age 65 you still have plenty of time to upgrade and retire as a Captain. That's a pretty big bucket list item. You definitely have an uphill road ahead with proficiency, these jets are in a sense easier to fly but more complex to manage. It's basically a video game. Make sure you're IFR proficient, worst thing that can happen is you wash out at one or two places at age 58. Who really cares?
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:47 PM
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I'd look into instructing at Flightsafety (90K+ per year to start) and network for a corporate job to be honest. Especially since you've been out of the game for so long. Unlike the airlines, FSI will work with you on getting current / proficient and you'll get a type rating out of it - the pressure to catch up would be much less, I can tell you that. Believe me, by the time two years is over you'll be proficient in flying using the latest technology. You'll probably have to sign a 2 year TA, but that will be over pretty quickly.

Know several guys flying into their late 60s and early 70's on contract while instructing. Some guys have obtained pretty good full-time flying gigs just from doing their job. With CP's coming through all of the time, you're pretty much interviewing on a regular basis.

Good luck.

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Old 04-11-2017, 11:12 PM
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I dunno, you think Republic would take him on as part of their program where they train your last 100 hours away? Would be a good way to regain proficiency, as well as get those night and instrument hours quickly. Can't hurt to ask them about it. Here's the email for that program: [email protected].

As someone else pointed out, you're short on night and instrument time. The instrument you might be able to pick up working at flight safety(?). Not sure how much time they let you use the sims, also not super knowledgeable on 142 regs.

Night, not really any way around that other than flying...each night landing you do after 25 night landings can be counted as an hour towards ATP, up to a total of 25 hours reduced. So 50 landings, 25 night hour reduction.
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My bad -- you'll need an ATP to instruct at FSI. Still a great choice imho when you do get it.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:26 PM
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I dunno, you think Republic would take him on as part of their program where they train your last 100 hours away? Would be a good way to regain proficiency, as well as get those night and instrument hours quickly. Can't hurt to ask them about it. Here's the email for that program: [email protected].

As someone else pointed out, you're short on night and instrument time. The instrument you might be able to pick up working at flight safety(?). Not sure how much time they let you use the sims, also not super knowledgeable on 142 regs.

Night, not really any way around that other than flying...each night landing you do after 25 night landings can be counted as an hour towards ATP, up to a total of 25 hours reduced. So 50 landings, 25 night hour reduction.
Thanks for the reply do you think the cross country hours are a problem?
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:41 PM
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Maybe start with Planesense and get your XC time up in a year then decide if you want to make PIC or go to the Regionals.
Good luck, it's fun times out there.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:49 PM
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7700 TT
2500 Multi
750 Instr.
750 Night
0 Turbine

36 years old.

Whats my fastest path to the majors?
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