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Old 11-30-2017 | 11:12 AM
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Just be upfront, don’t try and hide it, the people interviewing you have speedibg tickets, check ride failires as well. Just be honest and don’t try and beat around the bush. They’re just trying to see if you can be honest.
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Old 11-30-2017 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Just be upfront, don’t try and hide it, the people interviewing you have speedibg tickets, check ride failires as well. Just be honest and don’t try and beat around the bush. They’re just trying to see if you can be honest.
Good advice.

I know more than a couple of people who kind of exaggerated what kind of degrees they had or some such. And their job offers were withdrawn.

It’s a very good idea to pull your PRIA and make sure it’s correct. Mistakes on that happen.

Best advice is to be honest-and answer what they ask, but don’t beat yourself up. Many places still have no idea what a stage check is (but it’s not a checkride-and it is not failed.)

A couple of failed checkrides are nothing to sweat. Lying about them would be.
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Old 11-30-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Agreed.

But I think the lawsuit would be against the school. They should be very careful what they reveal.

If the airline asks about stage checks, sure-that’s fair game. But those checks are not the same as part 61 checkrides, and not subject to the same reporting.

It’s a stupid loophole, but some lawyers make good money off of stupid loopholes.
Originally Posted by dera
Interesting legal questions are, what are they allowed to ask, and what the previous employer/school is allowed to disclose.
Yes, a school could get sued, they might even lose.

Stage checks are not part 61 checkrides, and are not subject to FAA or PRIA reporting. But if an employer asks about them (some majors do), they can and will expect an honest response. There's no legal protection of privacy for your training history.

There's two ways they can find out if you're lying...

1. Logbook review

2. Ask the school. PRIA gives employers immunity for responding to PRIA requests. But it does not prevent anyone from sharing records which are not PRIA mandatory. It would be up to the school to decide, and most would not provide that info. Most. Where I saw the problem was schools where a former student subsequently went to work for the school, and then applied for an airline and did the PRIA request. I've seen two schools send ALL records, student and employee, to airlines.

3. They ask at the interview. Most people are not good liars, unless they're salesmen or CIA, but HR interviewers are good at spotting liars. Remember they don't have to justify or prove anything, if they don't have a good feeling they can simply not hire you.

But like I said before... RTFQ, and don't answer questions they didn't ask. But if they ask, don't lie.
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