1000 hours TPIC vs Regional
12-30-2017, 07:09 AM
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ASEL TPIC will not get you hired at a major.
But once you get some 121 jet time, that TPIC might push you over the top. I have seen RJ FOs with prop TPIC get called.
I'd probably take the quickest path that will get you to 4k TT and 1000 TPIC .
But once you get some 121 jet time, that TPIC might push you over the top. I have seen RJ FOs with prop TPIC get called.
I'd probably take the quickest path that will get you to 4k TT and 1000 TPIC .
Last edited by rickair7777; 12-30-2017 at 12:41 PM.
12-30-2017, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive
Let me ask this. Maybe as a "compromise" of sorts, do you think I should get 500 PIC at my current operator? I should have about 5-6 months on my contract after I upgrade, so worst case scenario, it would only take an additional month after my contract to get 500 PIC.
12-30-2017, 07:45 AM
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Remember, what the majors have been looking for is multi turbine PIC.
There are a few exceptions to this (ergo, military single-engine fighters), but Caravan time doesn't fit the bill.
Get to the regionals ASAP -- that's going to be your fastest path to the majors. The 121 time/experience is going to be far more valuable than the 135 ASEL time.
There are a few exceptions to this (ergo, military single-engine fighters), but Caravan time doesn't fit the bill.
Get to the regionals ASAP -- that's going to be your fastest path to the majors. The 121 time/experience is going to be far more valuable than the 135 ASEL time.
12-30-2017, 10:58 AM
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Free $.02 - you’re gaining experience at your current job. It’s bumping your TT. It will do little for your resume at a major. The learning curve has flattened out. Move on. The regional FO time will have more value. The sooner you get regional FO the sooner you upgrade. That has the most value. And if you go to a regional with a guaranteed flow the sooner you’d flow.
Short answer? Leave ASAP (1430-1500 hrs TT)
Guys getting hired avg 5000-7500 TT and 3000-4000 PIC. Put your foot on the gas and keep it floored. Take new opportunities, new type ratings, upgrade, CKA, flight department or union work. NONE of that is happening sooner or faster by continuing in a non 121 job, especially a Caravan, after you can move on (1500 hrs).
Short answer? Leave ASAP (1430-1500 hrs TT)
Guys getting hired avg 5000-7500 TT and 3000-4000 PIC. Put your foot on the gas and keep it floored. Take new opportunities, new type ratings, upgrade, CKA, flight department or union work. NONE of that is happening sooner or faster by continuing in a non 121 job, especially a Caravan, after you can move on (1500 hrs).
12-30-2017, 11:01 AM
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AA regionals with guaranteed flow don’t require a degree.
That said, you’d be silly to not get a degree. It provides opportunities at other airlines outside of the AA flow and is the foundation of a backup plan, or the path to a masters, if you lose your medical.
That said, you’d be silly to not get a degree. It provides opportunities at other airlines outside of the AA flow and is the foundation of a backup plan, or the path to a masters, if you lose your medical.
12-31-2017, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive
And I understand what everyone is saying about a 121 crew environment. I'm not trying to make excuses, but we do operate our Caravans with two pilots. Yes, I know it's single pilot certified, but it is in our OpSpecs for two pilots.
Are you logging your VFR SIC Caravan time (I assume some of your flying is VFR?) It's not loggable even if your GOM makes you a "required crewmember", SIC time is only loggable if you are required by a regulation or aircraft type certificate, neither is true for VFR Caravan flying.
I know someone who got badly burned by this.
12-31-2017, 04:58 PM
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It's zero VFR flying. Obviously if weather is permitting, we fly VMC. But all of our flights are IFR take off to touchdown. In fact, we're not even allowed to cancel IFR in the air. So if you're ever flying into a uncontrolled airport in the Midwest and have to hold because of us, sorry. 
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