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02-04-2018, 12:00 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by FettyWap
Thanks for the input. The UA guys I know that are new there seem pretty happy. The older guys not so much. But I know some guys who got furloughed twice there and some that didn’t like the continental merger.
SWA guys all seem fairly happy. Some are a little ****ed by the air Tran merger though.
I just want to make lots and lots of money with minimal work.
SWA guys all seem fairly happy. Some are a little ****ed by the air Tran merger though.
I just want to make lots and lots of money with minimal work.
How old are you? That will depend on how many years you’ll get to be a WB Captain.
SWA can hold DEN relatively junior. United it is relatively senior but you’ve got more massive retirements hitting United than SWA so your time to hold DEN wouldn’t be as long potentially compared to what it used to be.
SWA you can make $$$ but you work A LOT to do it. United folks seem to be more about max $, min effort.
02-04-2018, 03:42 PM
#12
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PBS is better if you’re senior in your seat. Less so if you’re junior.
Read the SW vs UA thread. Retirements are warping the universe. You can probably get hired at UA, get furloughed, get recalled, and at the end of your career you’ll be better off than if you had been hired at SW and were never furloughed. Why is explained in that thread.
Read the SW vs UA thread. Retirements are warping the universe. You can probably get hired at UA, get furloughed, get recalled, and at the end of your career you’ll be better off than if you had been hired at SW and were never furloughed. Why is explained in that thread.
02-05-2018, 07:29 AM
#13
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Sounds like PBS is an overall minus to me. How big of a minus is debatable.
So, as far as DEN, sounds like several years for UA and a less than six months for SWA. Slightly changing gears, I hear SWA Capt in DEN is about 10 years, how long will it take me to upgrade to Capt at UA in DEN?
Also, for the SWA guys, I hear the FOs can make in the upper $200k range. How is that possible? I also hear some Capts there go over $400. Is that true? Can I make that at UA as well if I’m DEN based?
Again, sorry for all the questions. This is a whole new world to me.
So, as far as DEN, sounds like several years for UA and a less than six months for SWA. Slightly changing gears, I hear SWA Capt in DEN is about 10 years, how long will it take me to upgrade to Capt at UA in DEN?
Also, for the SWA guys, I hear the FOs can make in the upper $200k range. How is that possible? I also hear some Capts there go over $400. Is that true? Can I make that at UA as well if I’m DEN based?
Again, sorry for all the questions. This is a whole new world to me.
02-05-2018, 07:38 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by FettyWap
Also, for the SWA guys, I hear the FOs can make in the upper $200k range. How is that possible? I also hear some Capts there go over $400. Is that true? Can I make that at UA as well if I’m DEN based?
That's an extreme example that involves soft pays, and manipulating your schedule to fly high-yield and premium-pay (over-time) trips. Also the typical legacy 15-16% 401k employer contribution helps (contribution, not match).
SWA is famous for very flexible scheduling, which allows folks to maximize income if desired.
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