Driving record
11-11-2018, 08:13 AM
#11
Layover Master
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Originally Posted by cezzna
If remembering every ticket from 1983 until today is a requisite display of mental fitness, then I concede, I have a bigger problem. I would guess I’ve had 5-10 tickets in that timeframe and can’t remember them all. If it does me in, so be it. I’ll do my best as always and good things will happen hopefully.
11-11-2018, 12:24 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by cezzna
Sorry if I come off with an attitude. Not taking anything lightly. Of course I wouldn’t say kavanaugh country in an interview. Trying to keep the conversation light, looking for others input. Jeez, lighten up.
Hey, I'm not the one you'll be interviewing with, you needn't worry in the least about MY attitude. Just the attitude of the guy who will be interviewing you and - more to the point - your own attitude.
Expect a question something like this:
"Mr, Cezzna, I see that you have had "five to ten" moving violatiions that you remember. That would seem to indicate that you have an ongoing difficulty complying with the rules that most of us follow. Can you explain to us why we should hire you for a position that involves a $200 million aircraft and the lives of hundreds of people that very much requires that you do follow rules reliably?"
Have a good answer to that question when you go in to your interview.
And, "Jeez, lighten up," isn't gonna cut it.
11-11-2018, 10:22 PM
#13
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Hey, I'm not the one you'll be interviewing with, you needn't worry in the least about MY attitude. Just the attitude of the guy who will be interviewing you and - more to the point - your own attitude.
Accident prone pilots
Correct answer:
B) have bad driving records.
11-12-2018, 02:34 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Hey, I'm not the one you'll be interviewing with, you needn't worry in the least about MY attitude. Just the attitude of the guy who will be interviewing you and - more to the point - your own attitude.
Expect a question something like this:
"Mr, Cezzna, I see that you have had "five to ten" moving violatiions that you remember. That would seem to indicate that you have an ongoing difficulty complying with the rules that most of us follow. Can you explain to us why we should hire you for a position that involves a $200 million aircraft and the lives of hundreds of people that very much requires that you do follow rules reliably?"
Have a good answer to that question when you go in to your interview.
And, "Jeez, lighten up," isn't gonna cut it.
Expect a question something like this:
"Mr, Cezzna, I see that you have had "five to ten" moving violatiions that you remember. That would seem to indicate that you have an ongoing difficulty complying with the rules that most of us follow. Can you explain to us why we should hire you for a position that involves a $200 million aircraft and the lives of hundreds of people that very much requires that you do follow rules reliably?"
Have a good answer to that question when you go in to your interview.
And, "Jeez, lighten up," isn't gonna cut it.
11-12-2018, 07:48 AM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,383
A forties something guy who’s been there done that perhaps stuck in the lost decade era has just been around longer than most of the new hires today who are 25-30 years old and CAN remember their most recent ticket. Not remembering a speeding ticket from 30 years ago isn’t being flippant or frivolous, it just literally means we’ve been around the block. 
11-12-2018, 08:36 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
A forties something guy who’s been there done that perhaps stuck in the lost decade era has just been around longer than most of the new hires today who are 25-30 years old and CAN remember their most recent ticket. Not remembering a speeding ticket from 30 years ago isn’t being flippant or frivolous, it just literally means we’ve been around the block.
11-12-2018, 09:02 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
A forties something guy who’s been there done that perhaps stuck in the lost decade era has just been around longer than most of the new hires today who are 25-30 years old and CAN remember their most recent ticket. Not remembering a speeding ticket from 30 years ago isn’t being flippant or frivolous, it just literally means we’ve been around the block.
11-12-2018, 09:25 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by cezzna
Is this place always so literal and overly serious? Can’t we have fun while discussing some of these issues? I feel like I’m in boot camp. Serious question: Does this culture extend to the flight line? I have no 121 experience. Is it common to have all serious no fun types? I’m sure some exist everywhere but I don’t want a job where I’m always looking over my shoulder.
11-12-2018, 09:52 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by cezzna
Is this place always so literal and overly serious? Can’t we have fun while discussing some of these issues? I feel like I’m in boot camp. Serious question: Does this culture extend to the flight line? I have no 121 experience. Is it common to have all serious no fun types? I’m sure some exist everywhere but I don’t want a job where I’m always looking over my shoulder.
Originally Posted by Learflyer
Unbelievable isn't it? I have no 121 either. But how hard is it to fathom that somebody that's an older candidate can't remember when their last speeding ticket was? Oh! We must be reckless n $hit.
Regionals will not care about this stuff at all, unless they catch you in a blatant lie.
The better majors however, will be super anal and that's why folks are driving that point home.
If you don't have the details, it would be better to say "several minor speeding tickets 1992-1999" than to omit it and have it pop up on a background check. But there's still risk... they might decide that "several" might mean 20+ and elect to just not take a chance. So if you cabn find the details, that would be better.
Bear in mind that (unlike white collar jobs) there's often not a lot of substantial career meat to compare civilian pilots, so it often comes down to the little things.
And the other guys are correct, any hint of attitude will get you shown the door about as fast as getting caught in a lie. Airlines really don't like cowboys or "elite personalities".
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