galaxy flyer

I went from 18 years in a steam gauge C-5; instructor/evaluator pilot, 5,000 hours to a Challenger with glass cockpit—it was hard work at 52. I sympathize with the OP. 121 ops has a lot of complications with flows, call-outs both have to be accomplished quickly and with small tolerance for error as a new hire. Add in self-induced pressure going thru the training a second time, I see were he’s at.

Yes, chair fly it, use the paper plane, rehearse it repeatedly.

GF

LeoAv8r

I went from 18 years in a steam gauge C-5; instructor/evaluator pilot, 5,000 hours to a Challenger with glass cockpit—it was hard work at 52. I sympathize with the OP. 121 ops has a lot of complications with flows, call-outs both have to be accomplished quickly and with small tolerance for error as a new hire. Add in self-induced pressure going thru the training a second time, I see were he’s at.

Yes, chair fly it, use the paper plane, rehearse it repeatedly.

Thank you folks. I’ll continue to push where I’m at obviously. Chair fly, more chair flying and then more. My waking hours are divided between study, chair flying, eating and sims.

I think much of my challenge is simply the choreography of flows, callouts, automation and aircraft control simultaneously. I don’t doubt I can get this. I only wonder if it’ll be in the time they’re giving. I’ll keep on and you guys have given me some good advice. Thank you.

Droopy

In addition to the chair fly, chair fly, chair fly advice, ask for help/advice from your instructors/training center. They may or may not be willing to, but attitude is huge. If they know you are working your butt off and not out screwing around, most places/instructors will bend over backwards to try to help.

Waiting until you've busted out is to late...

LeoAv8r

Was just told that I have to go before the training review board.

PotatoChip

All about attitude!....
My last sim partner had the same troubles, 15 years of steam gauges and old school jet flying. The 121 and glass killed him! Several repeated lessons and the training review board. But, he had a good attitude, worked with them and passed. He is a safe, trained pilot now.

LeoAv8r

I thought I would wait to post an update. I went before the training review board and they agreed to give me a couple of warm up sims and then recheck on the sim that I’m having problems with.

I’ve done the warm up sims and have to recheck in a couple of days. The warm ups were worse than the original sims that got me to the training review board in the first place. The second of them was a total disaster. Things that I used to do well, are now not going well and things that I struggled with have gotten worse. This is bizarre and frustrating to say the least.

Again, I don’t doubt that I can complete this successfully, I question if I can do it in the time the company expects me to do it in. I know I’m not the first or last person to be in this situation, so I’ll continue on. Just like you fly the airplane until the last part stops moving, I’ll continue forward until the last movement of the sim.

Thank you to everyone for all of the advice. I’ll continue to plug away and will do the recheck in a couple of days. If I do well, the next flight is the check ride. If not, probably another all expense paid guest appearance before the training review board or something else. To date, I’ve no check ride failures for any ratings and I don’t intend to start now if I can help it. Thank you again folks.

PerfInit

I believe You have hit the classic “training plateau”. It is 100% normal and I bet you have probably Experienced a plateau and overcome it at some point previously in your aviation career. Hopefully the training dept will recognize this and work with you to get through it.

LeoAv8r

Agree regarding the training department. Who knows I might go in and nail it too. Again I’m totally confident that I can do this.

LeoAv8r

Passed ATP and type ride. Thanks for the advice folks.

JayMahon

Congratulations. Love the happy ending to this story.