FutureMajor8

Right but it’s just another box that has to be checked. Another reason for the computer to disregard my apps.

Bahamasflyer

This in particular is what is really flawed with the whole idea of a computer deciding who gets called most of the time, simply based on whether or not they did or didn't check a box.

I have no problem with an actual HUMAN looking at an application, reading the explanation box associated with it, and then deciding not to call said applicant. I also have noooo problem with being asked in an interview, F2F, about skeletons.

Fine.....that's fair. Butttttt to have a computer reject an app, based on a broad and open question, is not cool.

Sure, a lot of yes/no Q's are cut and dried (eg. not having a degree, or 1000 TPIC, etc) and I have no beef with that, but letting a computer solely decide based on that other stuff is wrong, especially with so many nefarious (or worst) 135 operators.

Arturito

The real issue isnt the dumb computer sorting out what it has to sort, it is the wording of the question.
All those questions should be about actual convictions and not some kind of investigation by the FAA or whatever government agency.

A guy who was involved in a belly landing because the gear didnt come down has to check yes at the 'have you ever .... incident ... accident ... ?' question. If the airline sets up the computer to eliminate all the incident/accident people, well, too bad for you I guess ?

Our justice system is supposedly based on the 'innocent until proven guilty' principle. I wonder what a court would have to say about the way these questions are phrased if EEOC brought that up

TiredSoul

Lesser of two evils, either your app gets rejected or you get taken out of class on day two of Indoc.

FutureMajor8

If the FAA states there’s no LOI in my record and a FOIA shows there is no letter, how would an airline find out?

rickair7777

Many of us who have been around for a while have observed a new-hire being removed from class a week or two into it. It happens. I've seen two personally.

If it does show up somehow do you have a letter from the FAA saying that the LOI was sent in error and that you were never under investigation? You'll need to show that letter to CP as walks you out the front door.

If you're going to risk it, only you can decide what are the odds they'll find out. You're relying on a government bureaucracy to purge your record of confusing docs... the same one that issued they erroneous LOI to begin with?

Also even if you were placed under investigation erroneously, that's not what the question asked, is it? If they find out, that explanation may not get you off the hook.

Also like I said before, anyone familiar with this reg will understand why the FAA sent the LOI in the first place:

61.15 (e) Each person holding a certificate issued under this part shall provide a written report of each motor vehicle action to the FAA, Civil Aviation Security Division (AMC-700), P.O. Box 25810, Oklahoma City, OK 73125, not later than 60 days after the motor vehicle action. The report must include:

Like I saidbefore, it's a fairly honest mistake but technically if you didn't send the letter to the right address, it's a legit investigation.

If you get caught I don't think it will go well, at least there's a big risk it won't. So you have to decide what risk you're willing to take.

I always took the approach that I'd rather still have my old job and no interview than get fired and have no job and a PRIA report-able termination.

Bruno82

What’s an FOIA?


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Dixie320

https://www.foia.gov/

Arturito

https://www.foia.gov/

It's a law that allows you to ask the goverment what files they have about you

rickair7777

Everybody should do this, you'll get paper copies.

You can and should also check the PRD, but that is NOT accurate yet, it's still in deveopment.