FAA Letter of Investigation
10-30-2019, 07:33 AM
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FAA Letter of Investigation
A friend received a letter of investigation about 3 years ago. Case was closed with “no action taken”.
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
10-30-2019, 07:37 AM
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1. Get a copy of your FAA record. Use FOIA so you get all of it (minus active investigations IIRC).
2. You can look in the new online pilot records database right now, but be aware that is NOT complete yet so the absence of any particular record is not conclusive yet.
3. If they ask "have you ever" that's what they mean. Whether the paperwork is still readily available is not relevant. If you choose to lie and they find out, you'll be toast. If you're already employed they'll fire you and that WILL show up via PRIA.
Conventional wisdom is don't lie to airlines.
2. You can look in the new online pilot records database right now, but be aware that is NOT complete yet so the absence of any particular record is not conclusive yet.
3. If they ask "have you ever" that's what they mean. Whether the paperwork is still readily available is not relevant. If you choose to lie and they find out, you'll be toast. If you're already employed they'll fire you and that WILL show up via PRIA.
Conventional wisdom is don't lie to airlines.
10-30-2019, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Garryowen1
A friend received a letter of investigation about 3 years ago. Case was closed with “no action taken”.
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
10-30-2019, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Garryowen1
A friend received a letter of investigation about 3 years ago. Case was closed with “no action taken”.
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
According to her, the FAA expunged the record of investigation after 90 days. New employer application asks for a laundry list of things that have ever occurred with the FAA to include ever receiving a LOI. Does she need to put this on the app? She doesn’t think so since it’s been expunged. I say yes since she did receive it and explain that nothing came of it and it’s not on her pria.
In your experience, what direction would you steer her?
10-30-2019, 01:15 PM
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Letter of Investigation is exactly what it says it is.
They are investigating if you have possible been in violation of.
Case closed is still case closed.
Acknowledge it.
As a future employer I’d want to know, even for a CFI position.
Would like to know the why.
Because you landed gear up and they decided to let it slide or was it some paperwork glitch when you were a student pilot?
Did you manage do accumulate 9 in the last 3 years maybe you’re not hiring material.
It’s the equivalent of have you ever been convicted for any crime vs have you ever been arrested for any crime question.
They are investigating if you have possible been in violation of.
Case closed is still case closed.
Acknowledge it.
As a future employer I’d want to know, even for a CFI position.
Would like to know the why.
Because you landed gear up and they decided to let it slide or was it some paperwork glitch when you were a student pilot?
Did you manage do accumulate 9 in the last 3 years maybe you’re not hiring material.
It’s the equivalent of have you ever been convicted for any crime vs have you ever been arrested for any crime question.
10-30-2019, 08:08 PM
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I received a LOI about three years ago for failure to report a DUI conviction within 60 days. What happened was I reported it to the aeromedical side but they never sent it to the security division. When I received the letter I immediately called and resolved the problem. The FAA investigator acknowledged it was a error on the agencies part, closed the case. I looked online, called and requested my FAA file and there’s no record what so ever.
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
10-31-2019, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureMajor8
I received a LOI about three years ago for failure to report a DUI conviction within 60 days. What happened was I reported it to the aeromedical side but they never sent it to the security division. When I received the letter I immediately called and resolved the problem. The FAA investigator acknowledged it was a error on the agencies part, closed the case. I looked online, called and requested my FAA file and there’s no record what so ever.
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
10-31-2019, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureMajor8
I received a LOI about three years ago for failure to report a DUI conviction within 60 days. What happened was I reported it to the aeromedical side but they never sent it to the security division. When I received the letter I immediately called and resolved the problem. The FAA investigator acknowledged it was a error on the agencies part, closed the case. I looked online, called and requested my FAA file and there’s no record what so ever.
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
Do I need to report this even if the letter was sent in error?
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