And exactly how did you screw it up?
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Originally Posted by pangolin
(Post 2926023)
And exactly how did you screw it up?
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Go arounds are good decision making. There's more here..... So when you interview be TOTALLY honest, own it and move on. No second try on the check ride? Other lesson failures? Something not adding up. I'm not trying to be negatively critical - I want to help you succeed. If I were interviewing you I would be suspicious.
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Originally Posted by pangolin
(Post 2926030)
Go arounds are good decision making. There's more here..... So when you interview be TOTALLY honest, own it and move on. No second try on the check ride? Other lesson failures? Something not adding up. I'm not trying to be negatively critical - I want to help you succeed. If I were interviewing you I would be suspicious.
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Originally Posted by Captelmo
(Post 2926016)
I’m early 20’s. 1500 hours, also failed my checkride because of a visual approach, never practiced visuals in the sim before. First time doing a visual in a jet was on my checkride
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2926049)
Don't sweat it too much, GA to 121 jet can be a hard jump to make for many folks, if you recover cleanly this will have minimal impact on your long-term career prospects.
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Was this a visual approach with PAPI/VASI inoperative?
3:1 rule. Extend runway threshold in the box and mentally calculate your altitudes. 3:1 so 3 NM = 900’ 5NM = 1500’ etc It’s a classic end of checkride low hanging fruit really. Sounds like you dug yourself a hole. Honestly this is lack of experience and you start overthinking everything. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 2926088)
Was this a visual approach with PAPI/VASI inoperative?
3:1 rule. Extend runway threshold in the box and mentally calculate your altitudes. 3:1 so 3 NM = 900’ 5NM = 1500’ etc It’s a classic end of checkride low hanging fruit really. Sounds like you dug yourself a hole. Honestly this is lack of experience and you start overthinking everything. |
Originally Posted by Captelmo
(Post 2926016)
I’m early 20’s. 1500 hours, also failed my checkride because of a visual approach, never practiced visuals in the sim before. First time doing a visual in a jet was on my checkride
The life lesson is that you have to look out for you. You need to be intimately familiar with the checkride and what is on it as far as tasks. You should have known ahead of time. Checkrides are not supposed to by mystery guessing games. At the time of the check they should have been able to show/tell you what is on the check as far as tasks. You should have known before you started the check whether you practiced all of the tasks and if you find something that you had not been trained on, you don't take the check, no matter how much you want to get it done. Errors and screwups happen, both in training departments and as the fault of the applicant, but not providing training on a checkride task isn't a small thing. Who would a reputable airline want to hire?, the one that "got away with it" and "made it work" or the one that didn't take the check because they didn't get training on the tasks in the check? That's like turning down a flight when the weather doesn't meet mins. I realize that not all regionals are "reputable" in this way, but eventually you might make it up to a big airline and they most definitely care about doing things the right way. |
Was the initial training/checking done under AQP (Part 121 Subpart Y) or traditional Part 121 Subpart N&O training program? I am not aware of any requirement for an air carrier to check visual approaches on an initial equipment 121.441 Sim PC or AQP maneuvers validation.
Was it perhaps a “no flap” visual approach without reference to the VGSI? “No Flap” approach & landing should be trained and checked if the aircraft’s FSB Report requires it. Usually visual approaches are done with a check airman during IOE. |
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