Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 2926785)
Hang on...were you briefed on how to do one?
As stated earlier you can’t be tested on what’s not trained so I’m thinking we’ve got a mountain of misunderstanding here. What did your sim partner think of it? If it was considered a “briefing only” item then technically you’ve been trained. But I don’t know how the training syllabus was set up. I’m thinking there’s something you’re overlooking. Again, what do you consider a visual approach and how was it set up? Straight in 10 mile final starting at 3000’? My sim partner had previous jet time so he didn’t mind that. Also it was a charted visual |
Originally Posted by Captelmo
(Post 2927295)
My sim partner had previous jet time so he didn’t mind that.
Also it was a charted visual We’re sitting here taking time out of our day to answer you and help you and we have to piecemeal this together. Now you’re giving us another piece of info that would have been useful. This is getting annoying. If it’s anything like this one: http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/oswg/kjfk%20rnav%20visual%20rwy%2013l.pdf You either build it in the box or you fly it as you would fly a VOR approach with step downs. Go-around once - ok Go-around twice - problem as you now need to start looking at fuel and either requesting another runway or divert to alternate. Lots of tunnel vision going on in the sim, I suffer from it myself greatly. Never, EVER forget that in the sim you’re being evaluated on what you would do in REAL life. |
Originally Posted by Captelmo
(Post 2926016)
I’m early 20’s. 1500 hours, also failed my checkride because of a visual approach, never practiced visuals in the sim before. First time doing a visual in a jet was on my checkride
It’s a real failing in the US system where somehow magically 1500 hours makes you an airline pilot. I’m not a huge fan of the Euro MPL idea, but before jumping in a jet, there must be structured training AND line experience. Instead of immediately jumping at Mesa, find cargo op like AMF or decent jet charter operation, build some jet experience. GF |
Originally Posted by Captelmo
(Post 2927295)
My sim partner had previous jet time so he didn’t mind that.
Also it was a charted visual |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2927356)
Let me guess. Mt Vernon visual to DCA?
Step downs a la VOR/DME approach. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 2927312)
Don’t either requesting another runway or divert to alternate.
|
Originally Posted by Peabody17
(Post 2926580)
I don’t believe you’re allowed to use a backup (e.g. ILS) for the visual approach on a rating ride.
|
Originally Posted by DanMarino
(Post 2927398)
How would this help when the issue is not executing a visual approach to touchdown?
For a PC, which is task-oriented, you could just keep trying since the fuel load is usually frozen anyway. |
Originally Posted by DanMarino
(Post 2927398)
How would this help when the issue is not executing a visual approach to touchdown?
Recognizing your limitations and not beating a dead horse till you run out of gas? If I can’t land on this runway for whatever the reason I’ll request another runway or go to an alternate. Doesn’t matter if Chuck Yeager 3 miles in trail does make it in. Point is that you need to maintain your situational awareness. Again, act and respond as you would in real life. |
Originally Posted by FLT000
(Post 2926352)
Go find a right seat 91/135 job and learn all you can.
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:00 AM. |
User Alert System provided by
Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands