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Excargodog 02-22-2020 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2981902)
Careful. Some arrests will show up on the FBI database. And they probably will not be expunged from that... it's a national security system, not a public record. DUIs do show up there.

^^^THIS^^^

if, as you say, you got arrested in college then you got arrested. The fact that you got it expunged is all to the good, but if you tell a future aviation employer that you didn’t get arrested when you in fact did, and they find out about it, they are very likely to fire you immediately - for cause. And that you won’t be able to get expunged, it will dog you from there on...

TiredSoul 02-22-2020 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 2981814)
This is the most positive thing I've seen. Can you tell me more? What do I need to do, call the consulate or something? Please give me some details.


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Canadian+expunge+US+DIU

3000 02-23-2020 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Chipjumper (Post 2981876)
You can apply for criminal rehabilitation at any Canadian Consulate whenever you want. You’ll have a greater chance of success if five years have passed since your restrictions concluded (probation can count too). Even if fifty years have passed, at any moment they can deny you entry.
What are the circumstances of your DUI conviction? Did it involved a collision or injuries or destruction of property? Are you a habitual alcohol user with prior issues? Have you had any other criminal convictions or even speeding tickets? They will want to know everything and then make a reasonable decision based on the totality of circumstances.

Too bad it’s not the other way for you. The US issues inadmissibility waivers frequently to anyone including murderers, rapists, and even terrorists. They need not wait even six months. The decision is made by a work group in VA now.

Source: I am a “retired” immigration officer.


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No other conviction or arrests. No tickets of any kind ever. Not even a parking ticket. No problem with alcohol or any drugs.
I did rear end another car, but no injury and very minor property damage.
What do you think my chances would be?

rickair7777 02-23-2020 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 2982044)
No other conviction or arrests. No tickets of any kind ever. Not even a parking ticket. No problem with alcohol or any drugs.
I did rear end another car, but no injury and very minor property damage.
What do you think my chances would be?


With Canada, if it's been five years and you pay the (hefty) fee, odds are very high that you'll get your "rehabilitation". Then you can reasonably get hired at any regional. It's possible that some regionals may be desperate enough to hire you and just keep you off CA trips, but that's a real hard-spot with a seniority system so I kind of doubt it. Some WILL allow you to keep your job if you get a DUI while already employed, but I doubt many want to hire someone who cannot enter CA.

You'd definitely need to be rehabed for any major job I would think. Plus you'll have an uphill (but not insurmountable) battle just with the DUI history.

If you don't/can't get rehabilitated, you'd have to look for a regional which does not fly to canada, which is going to be only a handful, probably like Silver down in south FL.

rickair7777 02-23-2020 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 2981813)
I was hoping to hear from people in different airlines.

You can't spam the forums, don't do it again.

Air Guitar 02-23-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2982071)
You can't spam the forums, don't do it again.

that's going to stay on your record and can't be expunged... ;)

3000 02-23-2020 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2982071)
You can't spam the forums, don't do it again.

I wasn't aware of the rules. I thought I could ask the same question in different airline forums to get insight from people involved with all those different airlines. I still don't see why one shouldn't be allowed to ask the same question in more than one place.

3000 02-23-2020 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Air Guitar (Post 2982072)
that's going to stay on your record and can't be expunged... ;)

ah ****ttt!!!! Do you guys report to FAA? If so, I'm screwed!!!

Air Guitar 02-23-2020 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 2982073)
I wasn't aware of the rules. I thought I could ask the same question in different airline forums to get insight from people involved with all those different airlines. I still don't see why one shouldn't be allowed to ask the same question in more than one place.

It's a pretty tight knit community. The redundancy is quickly seen. We want to know what flight schools people are going to in this side of the forum, or want to know what is going on at the airline "Joe" works at, or see the feedback from the new CBA from the airline "Jerry" works at, or find out why people have a disdain for this other airline. We're going to see it and it's unnecessary and annoying.

3000 02-23-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Air Guitar (Post 2982082)
It's a pretty tight knit community. The redundancy is quickly seen. We want to know what flight schools people are going to in this side of the forum, or want to know what is going on at the airline "Joe" works at, or see the feedback from the new CBA from the airline "Jerry" works at, or find out why people have a disdain for this other airline. We're going to see it and it's unnecessary and annoying.

That makes sense. I wasn't very familiar with this. Now, I notices everybody is bashing Mesa Airlines. What's the deal with Mesa?


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