Expunged DUI
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With Canada, if it's been five years and you pay the (hefty) fee, odds are very high that you'll get your "rehabilitation". Then you can reasonably get hired at any regional. It's possible that some regionals may be desperate enough to hire you and just keep you off CA trips, but that's a real hard-spot with a seniority system so I kind of doubt it. Some WILL allow you to keep your job if you get a DUI while already employed, but I doubt many want to hire someone who cannot enter CA.
You'd definitely need to be rehabed for any major job I would think. Plus you'll have an uphill (but not insurmountable) battle just with the DUI history.
If you don't/can't get rehabilitated, you'd have to look for a regional which does not fly to canada, which is going to be only a handful, probably like Silver down in south FL.
You'd definitely need to be rehabed for any major job I would think. Plus you'll have an uphill (but not insurmountable) battle just with the DUI history.
If you don't/can't get rehabilitated, you'd have to look for a regional which does not fly to canada, which is going to be only a handful, probably like Silver down in south FL.
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Research the regionals, if none will take you (which have suitable bases for you) you can do corporate while you run the clock out. Might pay better than regionals anyway, although you might still want to do regionals when you can to progress your airline career. Depends on what the majors are looking for when you get to that point.
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As it was expressed above, if they'll take you, that might be your best bet. Some pills you just have to swallow and accept.
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I believe that if you FOIA yourself, you should get anything that the airlines might see.
Be aware that regionals probably just do the bare minimum, ie SIDA check.
But majors (especially top-tier) may use commercial databases which capture court records at all levels (most of which are online) and resell that data. That could include expunged records, if they were captured before the expungement. The legality of using that sort of info varies by state.
Due to the complexity of the situation with court records and the federal Db, the conventional wisdom is if in doubt, disclose it. Generally it's better to not get hired, than to accept a job and then get fired later. Back in the day it was common to lose one regional new-hire per class to background issues which popped up during training. Less common at majors (some may do the checks before granting a class date).
You can always ask a lawyer, but get one who understands airline aviation issues.
If anybody knows for sure (varies by state anyway) I haven't heard from them.
Be aware that regionals probably just do the bare minimum, ie SIDA check.
But majors (especially top-tier) may use commercial databases which capture court records at all levels (most of which are online) and resell that data. That could include expunged records, if they were captured before the expungement. The legality of using that sort of info varies by state.
Due to the complexity of the situation with court records and the federal Db, the conventional wisdom is if in doubt, disclose it. Generally it's better to not get hired, than to accept a job and then get fired later. Back in the day it was common to lose one regional new-hire per class to background issues which popped up during training. Less common at majors (some may do the checks before granting a class date).
You can always ask a lawyer, but get one who understands airline aviation issues.
If anybody knows for sure (varies by state anyway) I haven't heard from them.
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The FBI may does not expunge any records since their purpose is investigations and national security, not public records. Even if they're supposed, the judicial record system is a hodge-podge of systems run by low-paid government clerks at federal, state, and local levels. Ie, not necessarily reliable.
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