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Old 09-02-2022, 10:20 AM
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My brother (33) is thinking about making a career change. He's just about finished with his private, and is considering going to ATP to complete ratings. I'm so out of touch with the current path pilots are taking to get to an airline job. Any advice on financing training? Any benefit to going with ATP over any other 141 flight school? If he eventually ends up at a regional like SkyWest, what can he realistically expect to earn year 1-5? I'm interested in hearing anything else you might think important.

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Old 09-02-2022, 12:25 PM
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I’ve flown with a few captains that have kids in training at ATP in AZ. I can’t speak to the financing part, but the time required to finish training is less than two years and usually results in a job opportunity flight instructing. Once the instructors reach minimums, they will be picked up by a regional.

The only input I can put a value on is time required to become ready for a regional job. I can’t comment on training quality or your brother’s ability….

I believe ASU has a flight program that may be linked to ATP—maybe financing along that path is available?

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AA cadet program. They’ll co-sign your loan, give you a pathway to get a cfi gig and then to a regional. The bonuses once hired will help repay that loan fast

the corporate overlords just hired their first cadets to mainline (around 4 years after starting) outside the flow through. Obviously poster boys to promote the program but real
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How are his finances? I've got a kid and a niece who are thinking along those lines. Given all of the shenanigans with schools these days I'm considering the possibility of hiring a CFI full time and buying or leasing a plane, with the intent of full time training until it's done. Incentivize it with a big completion bonus. Hire either an old retired CFI or a brand new one who won't have enough TT for airlines any time soon. I have enough experience to supervise the latter and do "stage checks" at key points.
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB View Post
AA cadet program. They’ll co-sign your loan, give you a pathway to get a cfi gig and then to a regional. The bonuses once hired will help repay that loan fast
What are the strings? Locked into the AA flow timeline?
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What are the strings? Locked into the AA flow timeline?
no real strings that I know of other than having a huge loan hanging over your head. Some of the big bonuses have strings, but I want to say not all of them. If you get hired outside the flow to AA, it doesn’t cause you to have to repay any bonus. AA wholly owneds are also a great place for guys who want to get hired by Delta/United…
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no real strings that I know of other than having a huge loan hanging over your head. Some of the big bonuses have strings, but I want to say not all of them. If you get hired outside the flow to AA, it doesn’t cause you to have to repay any bonus. AA wholly owneds are also a great place for guys who want to get hired by Delta/United…
PSA is the only one out of the three that will accept you into the cadet program after PPL from any 61 or 141 school. The other two will only accept cadets from the list of partner schools.
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