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04-19-2023, 02:36 PM

#11

Otterbox

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Originally Posted by Pilot6343

I am happy at my regional Envoy with pay and QOL living in base and am only at 270 hours and have a line now with 70 hours a month. I have a CJO/class date with Spirit. Spirits training looks pretty rough and unorganized document wise, with at least the documents they have sent me so far. I would be able to also live in base with Spirit but would take the pay cut considering I will upgrade to Captain in around a year if I stayed including captain pay at 750 hours. My plan is to leave either of them at the first sign of a legacy. Is it worth staying for that Turbine PIC or the A320 type rating but also a risk of failing a check ride when life’s good right now. Also I do enjoy my regionals flight benefits but it is always a risk that “the music stops playing and it collapses and I’m stuck at a regional vs a major.

If you want to work at AA, you need to leave Envoy. If you want to work at Delta or United stay.

04-21-2023, 01:24 PM

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Bike Handles

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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation

**Comfortable(ish) compared to a regional**

So you're saying spending your career as a ULCC Captain making 300-400k/yr and maxing out your 401k with a DC is only comfortableish compared to a regional??

Sounds about the same as any legacy airline...... except with a better QOL

Touché. It wasn't written well on my part. What I was trying to make a point towards, was that if the music stops it's much better to be at a ULCC. But when the music stops it's not going to be comfortable anywhere. Gone is the argument of "NK is more recession proof".

07-28-2023, 09:20 PM

#13

Pilot6343

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Originally Posted by Bike Handles

Would you rather be at a regional when the music stops or at a company that flies its own passengers? While turbine PIC is great, the industry has changed. NK training isn't that "rough" or disorganized in my opinion. If you can dedicate yourself to a training program (cooperate to graduate) and put distractions aside, then you will be fine.

Take the ULCC, especially if you can live in base. Focus on the training and if the music stops you'll make more career earnings and have a comfortable(ish) life compared to being stuck at a regional pondering what life would have been like if you took the ULCC job.

Thanks for the advice! I took it and passed my check-ride last night!