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#11
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
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I am one of many DECs that Envoy hired with no currency and no recency, I hadn't flown in 16 years when I started in March. They hired me with no interview, just a logbook review. The catch is that I was required to train as a captain. I decided that was the price of readmission. It was nice that I didn't have to wait for a local CFI and pay to get current in a small plane. Yes, it can be done, and many have. The hand flying was the easy part, I do believe that's a skill like riding a bicycle that you don't forget. Learning a new aircraft and company procedures was hard work. I would have preferred to start as an FO, but I figured many regionals were making upgrade mandatory and FO hiring had slowed down. I also came into this with 2,000 TPIC. Many people have made it through DEC training with only FO time. I'm looking at the job as a stepping stone to the majors. It was definitely a risk going directly to the left seat. But thanks to Envoy's strategy, they are actually over staffed on captains in anticipation of the delivery of additional E-175s in 2024 while everyone else is short of regional captains. I will say that in my experience the majors are still looking for 200-300 hours of flight time in the last year, and you are unlikely to be able to avoid that preferred recency without military flight experience. I am happy that I have been getting paid to build that time in an E-175.
#12
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
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I am one of many DECs that Envoy hired with no currency and no recency, I hadn't flown in 16 years when I started in March. They hired me with no interview, just a logbook review. The catch is that I was required to train as a captain. I decided that was the price of readmission. It was nice that I didn't have to wait for a local CFI and pay to get current in a small plane. Yes, it can be done, and many have. The hand flying was the easy part, I do believe that's a skill like riding a bicycle that you don't forget. Learning a new aircraft and company procedures was hard work. I would have preferred to start as an FO, but I figured many regionals were making upgrade mandatory and FO hiring had slowed down. I also came into this with 2,000 TPIC. Many people have made it through DEC training with only FO time. I'm looking at the job as a stepping stone to the majors. It was definitely a risk going directly to the left seat. But thanks to Envoy's strategy, they are actually over staffed on captains in anticipation of the delivery of additional E-175s in 2024 while everyone else is short of regional captains. I will say that in my experience the majors are still looking for 200-300 hours of flight time in the last year, and you are unlikely to be able to avoid that preferred recency without military flight experience. I am happy that I have been getting paid to build that time in an E-175.
Thanks for the info. After speaking with some friends that are still in the industry I'm going to start throwing out some apps later this year. I hit my 20 years in August so I'm looking around June-July to start sending stuff out.
#13
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,213
Good luck.
#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
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Posts: 189
I did have a military flying background, but you're way ahead of me on 121 experience and type ratings. I wouldn't wait that long to start submitting apps, just note your availability based on your retirement date.
Good luck. The office view is definitely worth it.
#15
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
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I was in a very similar situation almost exactly a year ago. Left flying after getting laid off from NWA after 9/11, and had uniformed and govvie GS desk job (DoD) for next 20+ years. GS retirement eligible on 30 Sept 23. Made the realization/decision in Dec 22 to pursue a return to airlines, started GA flying last January just to get any kind of currency, and started submitting apps in March. Interviewed several times between May and August, with 3 LCC CJO's for October class dates. Used a week of terminal leave to fill a 25 Sept class seat opening.
I did have a military flying background, but you're way ahead of me on 121 experience and type ratings. I wouldn't wait that long to start submitting apps, just note your availability based on your retirement date.
Good luck. The office view is definitely worth it.
I did have a military flying background, but you're way ahead of me on 121 experience and type ratings. I wouldn't wait that long to start submitting apps, just note your availability based on your retirement date.
Good luck. The office view is definitely worth it.
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