Logging Flight Time
#11
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Oh my friend, sit down and get comfortable, its gonna be a loooooooooong journey. You've joined the other 15,000 regional pilots with the same goal and aspirations.
At first you are happy and upbeat. You're flying a turbine powered airplane with passengers in the back. You're thinking, hum I'm going to be one of those fortunate guys who goes to a major from the right seat, won't even have to upgrade. 5 years later, perhaps a Captain then, you're thinking, where exactly did I go wrong, what the hell was I thinking, this is not what the brochure said. Get me out of this dump.
Been there, done that, got 3 shirts. Thank God NetJets picked me up, otherwise I would be on suicide watch just about now.......
At first you are happy and upbeat. You're flying a turbine powered airplane with passengers in the back. You're thinking, hum I'm going to be one of those fortunate guys who goes to a major from the right seat, won't even have to upgrade. 5 years later, perhaps a Captain then, you're thinking, where exactly did I go wrong, what the hell was I thinking, this is not what the brochure said. Get me out of this dump.
Been there, done that, got 3 shirts. Thank God NetJets picked me up, otherwise I would be on suicide watch just about now.......
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#12
#13
I was kinda hoping having UCLA on my resume would be the ace up my sleeve one day. Tell me it makes a difference!
#14
I log per day, TT, multi, turbine, landings (day/night), actual, approaches, SIC/PIC, X-Country and my trip number. I do not post the airports I visited; instead I print a monthly "etrip" report and keep it in a separate folder for verification of times, legs and airports. Our "etrip" is an approved logbook report and I know some pilot who keep their little black book and just print the report, they nothing more.
After all the Majors don't care as much about your logbook are the regionals do. They just glance and move on.
After all the Majors don't care as much about your logbook are the regionals do. They just glance and move on.
#15
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i have logged leg by leg, and just days. Whatever floats your boat.
As for UCLA's rant.... I think we can all relate...I could have related when I was flying Hercs and living in a tent for months on end..... but why crap on our day especially now that you have YOUR dream job.
As for UCLA's rant.... I think we can all relate...I could have related when I was flying Hercs and living in a tent for months on end..... but why crap on our day especially now that you have YOUR dream job.
#16
i have logged leg by leg, and just days. Whatever floats your boat.
As for UCLA's rant.... I think we can all relate...I could have related when I was flying Hercs and living in a tent for months on end..... but why crap on our day especially now that you have YOUR dream job.
As for UCLA's rant.... I think we can all relate...I could have related when I was flying Hercs and living in a tent for months on end..... but why crap on our day especially now that you have YOUR dream job.
#17
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Joined APC: May 2021
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I log per day, TT, multi, turbine, landings (day/night), actual, approaches, SIC/PIC, X-Country and my trip number. I do not post the airports I visited; instead I print a monthly "etrip" report and keep it in a separate folder for verification of times, legs and airports. Our "etrip" is an approved logbook report and I know some pilot who keep their little black book and just print the report, they nothing more.
After all the Majors don't care as much about your logbook are the regionals do. They just glance and move on.
After all the Majors don't care as much about your logbook are the regionals do. They just glance and move on.
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 521
Here I go opening an ancient thread, Maybe I should just start a new one? Anyway, I was recently told that the majors want to see every flight to a line so I am wondering if this is still accurate? I was under the impression that they don't care much, so I was logging every day to a line. Should I go back and change it?
As far as the FAA is concerned, it has to be by flight (FAR 61.51). But, you only need to log time to show proficiency and/or for a rating or certificate. There is no FAA requirement to log every hour flown. Entering flights by day is not FAA authorized, however.
#19
It is more a test of professionalism and attention to detail than it is about the time that you have in your logbook. Do you have an attention to detail and log by the flight, and have a good logbook that is well maintained? At the end of the day, in this hiring environment, you will still get hired with either most likely.
In the paper book, I logged 121 by the year, one line per year unless I switched to a different type. GA got logged per flight.
If you can import from your company system it should be easy to log by flight, then just make the totals match in the paper book.
It's not forbidden either. As you say, if it's not needed for currency or aeronautical experience credit, you can log it any way you like.
You do not ever need to log anything 121 for currency/training, the airline's records take of that. Most 121 instructors will decline to sign your book, due to personal or company policy (liability). So I'd recommend not trying to log 121 training, since it will be inconsistent at best.
#20
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
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The only time that is required to be logged is that used to meet the requirements of a certificate, privilege, or rating, and to show recency of experience.
The FAA does not "authorize" logging flights by the day, or not logging flights by the day, because FAA "authorization" is not needed, or relevant. One may log by the hour, by the trip, leg, day, week, month, year, or decade, if one wishes. So long as one meets the legal requirements to establish experience for a certificate, privilege, or rating, or recency of experience, the grouping of one's flights is irrelevant.
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