What is wrong with me?
03-22-2010, 08:07 PM
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What is wrong with me?
Just curious as to what's going wrong when I apply for jobs. For example, there's a CFI job that also requires the CFII. I apply, but never seem to get a call. Lately I've been calling the school (showed up dressed up for Flight Safety) to follow up to make sure the resume and cover letter was recieved and if the position is still available. I usualy get the voice mail, but still no call backs. What am I doing wrong, is it bad karma, bad resume and cover letter, or am I not meant to be in this line work? I'd like to have some sort of flying job after I spent all this money and am feeling frustrated.
03-22-2010, 08:31 PM
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After being out on the street for almost 2 years... when you apply to an open job, they get your application... and roughly 300 other applications. Once (if) movement happens in the future, it should get better.
The only other thing I can suggest is to apply in person... get an internal rec, etc.
I hate to say it, but "welcome to the club."
The only other thing I can suggest is to apply in person... get an internal rec, etc.
I hate to say it, but "welcome to the club."
03-22-2010, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
Just curious as to what's going wrong when I apply for jobs. For example, there's a CFI job that also requires the CFII. I apply, but never seem to get a call. Lately I've been calling the school (showed up dressed up for Flight Safety) to follow up to make sure the resume and cover letter was recieved and if the position is still available. I usualy get the voice mail, but still no call backs. What am I doing wrong, is it bad karma, bad resume and cover letter, or am I not meant to be in this line work? I'd like to have some sort of flying job after I spent all this money and am feeling frustrated.
What a tough time to find a flying job. My GF today was saying that same thing about her outside the military job hunt. She was really down on herself and not understanding why someone with her qualifications isn't even getting a bite. Just stay positive. If you really want it in this environment then you are really going to have to work at it.
The point of my story above btw was to re-iterate how important getting of there and actually networking with a real, live person is too accomplishing your goals!
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03-23-2010, 07:51 AM
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This is the normal aviation routine for economic downturns. The market is flooded with experienced pilots and each job opening probably attracts hundreds (possibly thousands) of resumes.
Realistically you need to network and have an inside connection. Lacking that, your best shot will be to try to get some face time with employers and potential employers. Keep plugging away, you might get lucky and stumble onto something.
Realistically you need to network and have an inside connection. Lacking that, your best shot will be to try to get some face time with employers and potential employers. Keep plugging away, you might get lucky and stumble onto something.
03-23-2010, 08:54 AM
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I like to say "when the going gets tough the tough get going", and "you can't keep a good man down". Cheesy sayings but true. I am hunting for an engineering job right now and it's the same story. I am a dead-fit for 1 to 30 positions at a certain firm, recommendation in-hand from Robert Goddard as well, and they don't bother even calling to see if I am actually sitting here sending them information about myself. Tough times. You just have to keep working at it patiently. Both manufacturing and aviation are skimming off the low hanging fruit right now, looking for deals on talent. They are getting highly specialized, experienced people for a song and there is not a lot left to be had until the market improves.
03-23-2010, 11:02 AM
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I used to counsel students during career day at my alma mater and tell them that I got turned down for more jobs than I was accepted. And that closed doors lead you in directions you might not have otherwise considered. Keep at it.
03-31-2010, 10:17 AM
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I did manage to get a phone call for an interview for a flight school in Tulsa and am waiting for the phone to ring, they're giving me a phone interview since I lack the funds to fly there for one.
Cub, I live near Piper Aircraft in Vero Beach, they're looking to start hiring engineers and workers for the new piper jet. I'll try to get more details for you if you want.
Cub, I live near Piper Aircraft in Vero Beach, they're looking to start hiring engineers and workers for the new piper jet. I'll try to get more details for you if you want.
03-31-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
I did manage to get a phone call for an interview for a flight school in Tulsa and am waiting for the phone to ring, they're giving me a phone interview since I lack the funds to fly there for one.
Cub, I live near Piper Aircraft in Vero Beach, they're looking to start hiring engineers and workers for the new piper jet. I'll try to get more details for you if you want.
Cub, I live near Piper Aircraft in Vero Beach, they're looking to start hiring engineers and workers for the new piper jet. I'll try to get more details for you if you want.
04-03-2010, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
Just curious as to what's going wrong when I apply for jobs. For example, there's a CFI job that also requires the CFII. I apply, but never seem to get a call. Lately I've been calling the school (showed up dressed up for Flight Safety) to follow up to make sure the resume and cover letter was recieved and if the position is still available. I usualy get the voice mail, but still no call backs. What am I doing wrong, is it bad karma, bad resume and cover letter, or am I not meant to be in this line work? I'd like to have some sort of flying job after I spent all this money and am feeling frustrated.
04-04-2010, 03:52 PM
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Have you expanded your sights to overseas flight school (China?), how about drop zones? Broaden your horizons past the paths that everyone has tried to lay out for you. Here's another, I know of at least two bush airlines in Alaska that have hired recently (or are hiring), if you want the job you should find out which ones they are and send a resume (hint: Bethel, AK), better yet, call the Chief Pilots at them and talk to them personally.
In my experience every single one of my jobs was gotten by making a phone call to the chief pilot or over beers at a bar, and NONE by sending a resume in and hoping for the best.
In my experience every single one of my jobs was gotten by making a phone call to the chief pilot or over beers at a bar, and NONE by sending a resume in and hoping for the best.
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