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rickair7777 04-12-2010 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Gajre539 (Post 794214)
What happens if a previous pilot 121/135 company no longer exists?

Larger companies will have a record custodian appointed who can respond to PRIA requests. Use the grapevine to found out who that is.

Smaller companies may not do that, in which case I guess you just tell the prospective employer that they went BK and provide the last known address.

Gajre539 04-12-2010 12:48 PM

Thank you for the information.

Lori Clark 04-13-2010 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 794288)
Larger companies will have a record custodian appointed who can respond to PRIA requests. Use the grapevine to found out who that is.

Smaller companies may not do that, in which case I guess you just tell the prospective employer that they went BK and provide the last known address.

It is my understanding that companies who go out of business are required by law to have a custodian of such records for something like five years (it may be seven). That's any size company. You should be able to use the original corporate address and it would be forwarded to the custodian.

bozobigtop 04-13-2010 06:52 AM

[quote=Lori Clark;794963]It is my understanding that companies who go out of business are required by law to have a custodian of such records for something like five years (it may be seven). That's any size company. You should be able to use the original corporate address and it would be forwarded to the custodian.[/quote


Hi Lori,

Can you confirm that the PRIA is still at five years unless they have changed it recently.

Thanks

Lori Clark 04-13-2010 07:32 AM

[QUOTE=bozobigtop;794991]

Originally Posted by Lori Clark (Post 794963)
It is my understanding that companies who go out of business are required by law to have a custodian of such records for something like five years (it may be seven). That's any size company. You should be able to use the original corporate address and it would be forwarded to the custodian.[/quote


Hi Lori,

Can you confirm that the PRIA is still at five years unless they have changed it recently.

Thanks

Yes, five years. Excerpt from AC120-68D - "Under PRIA, a hiring employer cannot place a pilot into service until it obtains and reviews the last 5 years of the pilot’s background and other safety-related records as specified in PRIA."

For more detailed information and the actual forms see: PRIA Policy, Forms, & References

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minimwage4 04-14-2010 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Petethedog (Post 791480)
First, let me say thanks to Lori and whoever else is responsible for putting this section together. I perused quite a bit of it recently and there is lots of good info. I appreciate the resource being out there.
I am likely to be out of a job in a few months and so I am getting my ducks in a row. I am in the process of getting copies of my FAA pilot records and NDR just to ensure everything is what I think it is. I am wondering if the records the FAA will give me is anything different that what a prospective employer would see on a PRIA. Any insight appreciated. Thanks!

I just did a PRIA check. All I got from the FAA was some info that confirmed I was a licensed pilot. Nothing on there about my background. It makes me wonder how exactly is the FAA going to change these background check regs with the new bill, if we can't even find out exactly what the new employer sees. I'm guessing if you really want info you have to talk to the present employer and ask them what they have for your background.

rickair7777 04-14-2010 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 795665)
I just did a PRIA check. All I got from the FAA was some info that confirmed I was a licensed pilot. Nothing on there about my background. It makes me wonder how exactly is the FAA going to change these background check regs with the new bill, if we can't even find out exactly what the new employer sees. I'm guessing if you really want info you have to talk to the present employer and ask them what they have for your background.

FAA records and PRIA are two separate issues, I believe they don't have anything to do with each other.

When you fill out each PRIA form for each past employer there should be a box to check indicating that you want copies of whatever records are returned. Those would come from the employer, not the FAA.

A check of your FAA records will generally only show certs/ratings, medical, and violations not any training details.

Alfa Charlie 04-14-2010 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 795886)
FAA records and PRIA are two separate issues, I believe they don't have anything to do with each other.

When you fill out each PRIA form for each past employer there should be a box to check indicating that you want copies of whatever records are returned. Those would come from the employer, not the FAA.

A check of your FAA records will generally only show certs/ratings, medical, and violations not any training details.

Does FAA records show check ride failures?
AC

rickair7777 04-14-2010 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Alfa Charlie (Post 795931)
Does FAA records show check ride failures?
AC

For routine 121 training events, I don't think so. Those records are maintained by the company.

For a 121 event which was also a certificate event (ie ATP during upgrade) the FAA will have a record of a pinkslip.

But I am not certain that airlines even get any checkride failure info from the FAA. I had heard that all they get was violations and rating/cert info.

Lori?

Avien 09-14-2010 01:45 AM

How is a PRIA check conducted if the 5 year background check involves a foreign airline? Many overseas airlines simply will not mail documents elsewhere.


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