DAL4EVER

Well, two schools of thought. One, the majors are able to attract the "creme de la creme" from the military as well as regional and other majors. The interview process weeds out the chaff and the strong generally make it through. As a result, there are fewer failures because they attract and retain the strongest pilots by and large.

Two, the regionals don't have the luxury of always attracting the best and the brightest and retaining them. As a result, the weeding out is done during training. You are right, there are rogue check airman out there. When they exist, the need to be counseled and if they don't correct their performance they need to be removed as check airman. That is a simple fix. The reality is, the POI overseeing the airline doesn't like high bust rates. It's easy for a Program Manager to look at the baseline failure rates and compare them to check airmen. If the usual pass rate is 90% and one check airman passes only 50% then perhaps there is a problem. The other issue is that most regionals don't operate under AQP training requirements. Therefore, they do a standard 441 ride where its pass or fail. Now it is up to the check airman but with the exception of the ATP/Type Ride they have the ability to redo a maneuver up to three times. But that's his discretion.

Again, ask yourself why you got an unsat? Did you not prioritize properly. The engine on fire is designed to pull your attention from the fact that a reverser deployed. Going missed off CAT I, II or III shouldn't matter. Its the same maneuver just closer to the ground. Fly the plane. Let the fire burn. Take care of the reverser. Once its stowed, then take care of the fire. If you got distracted and didn't fly the airplane within tolerance its a legit bust. He must see you can demonstrate mastery of the plane under all conditions.

Silver02ex

Don't they give you 3 TTP here at Pinnacle? Even if you screw up your engine failure, that should only be one TTP. I keep hearing all these rumors about how pilots at Pinnacle such such as "Pink slip xxx" busting a PC for something very small, but when I was in the sim (as a non-fly) with him giving a Type ride I thought he was more than fair. There has to be more to the this story.

To answer your question, I can't say what it will do to your chance of getting on with the majors, but if it was me, I would just be honest about it and try not to blame someone else.

This has nothing to do with your question, but if you consider the company you work for (Pinnacle) a bottom feeder, why don't you just put your 2 weeks notice in. If that's how you feel about the company you work for. IMO it sounds like you wanted to come here and wanted the quick upgrade and that didn't happen, you are ****ed off at the company, later on busted a PC and try to blame someone else but yourself.

SpiraMirabilis

Something sounds off. Both MESA and PNCL will retrain in the checkride 3 times prior to failure.... Ie 3 "sim freezes".

Slice

What does Mesa have to do with this? You fly for Pinnacle, right? A bust is a bust, I don't care who you work for. I think it's weak that you'd even ask this question here in the form that you did.

lolwut

A significant number of pilots have made it through training at both Mesa and Pinnacle and never busted anything. Blaming the airline will do nothing but make you look bad. Like others said, own up to your error, learn from it, and take the stance that nobody is perfect.

jiminmem

Which airline has this on their application?

rickair7777

In the past, they might overlook one bust at any airline, particularly if it was known by the recruiters to hand out an inordinate number of failures.

But post-pinnacle, I have a suspicion that majors will be concerned about the liaibility associated with us sub-par regional pilots. Unfortunately, a plaintiff's attorney could do a lot of damage with blemishes on a pilot's record. My guess is airline legal departments may set limits on who they can hire. I assume one bust would not be a deal breaker, but I would prefer not to have one in this climate. If your next few are good that will help to put this one behind you.

Also think about how you will address this at an interview...

DO NOT say that the examiner was unfair, too tough, inconsistent, etc...even if that's exactly what happened. This will indicate that you don't accept responsibility.

I would also avoid a "poop happens" explanation (even though poop does in fact happen). This will send the message that you are lackadaisical and not firmly committed to controlling your destiny...or that you simply suck.

Even if you really didn't do anything wrong, I might make up an explanation about what happened, how you learned from it, and what you will do differently in the future. They want to feel comfortable that this will not be a trend, so you need to identify a "fix" (even if there really isn't one).

The Dominican

Just ask yourself if major airlines consider your experience in Pinnacle or MESA as valid experience to hire you, I think that they do since PCL pilots have moved on to greener pastures without a problem, so if the answer evidently is yes, then so their training records are consider valid. You also said that failures are rare at majors, how do you know that? training records are not available to anyone outside of the training departments and just because pilots don't come here and cry the blues about how the checker was unethical and busted me, how dared he? that doesn't mean they do not happen.

Other pilots that have busted a ride before have gone on to major airline jobs, but I can guarantee you that none that have your attitude has.

If that is even what happened, In my experience as a check airman I have learned that individuals explaining their bust are always presenting an "Iceberg" they only show a small portion of the event usually reconstructed to make everything else but them to be at fault but you don't see what is under the water line, usually twice as large as what they show

DashDriverYV

The more I read your post, the more inclined I am to remind you," When you think you're surrounded by *********s, It's probably you".

You have a poor attitude when it comes to professionalism and manning up. Perhaps you have a future in Airline Management, or politics.

SilverandSore

You may want to brush up on your spelling too, from what I understand, Delta is very unforgiving with regard to typos on your application.