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Old 05-12-2011 | 09:22 AM
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Any idea why the fail rate is so high?
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Old 05-12-2011 | 06:42 PM
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Any idea why the fail rate is so high?
I can only speculate so I can't give specific examples. I do know that most, if not all, failed out during sim training. I'm sure some people lacked the instrument skills (why they might bring the sim back), while others probably just couldn't handle the speed or procedures, or just flat out didn't study (which completely boggles me). Also, the quickest way to get fired from AWAC is to have an attitude problem, doesn't matter how good of a pilot you are, they won't put up with it.
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Old 05-13-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Has air wis gone to AQP training yet?
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Old 05-13-2011 | 03:47 PM
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Air Wis is attending the job fair in ATL June 10/11. Waiting years for a response is fine unless you really need a job in the not to distant future, in which case I would recommend any one else actively hiring.
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Old 05-14-2011 | 03:27 PM
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I agree with Walk...Attitude is probably the biggest failure (from what the instructors told us). I also can see how people get dropped for not having basic flying skills/instrument skills. My sim partner and I both flew Citations before we came to AWAC and we both thought the sim training was incredibly difficult. I hit a brick wall around sim 3 and never thought I was going to get through it, but I think it should be this way. Its meant to be challenging. We both passed and are on the line now but it was tough road.
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Old 05-15-2011 | 05:50 AM
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Has air wis gone to AQP training yet?
No, not that I'm aware of. However the training department does a very good job of incorporating CRM scenarios when they can, but the systems training and oral are still very much a "build the airplane" mentality (in my opinion). I'm not that familiar with AQP, so I could be completely wrong.
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Old 05-15-2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechBus
I agree with Walk...Attitude is probably the biggest failure (from what the instructors told us). I also can see how people get dropped for not having basic flying skills/instrument skills. My sim partner and I both flew Citations before we came to AWAC and we both thought the sim training was incredibly difficult. I hit a brick wall around sim 3 and never thought I was going to get through it, but I think it should be this way. Its meant to be challenging. We both passed and are on the line now but it was tough road.
Anything you can share with us as to why it was difficult? Your previous Citation time I thought would make it almost a breeze for you, but I guess not. I'm kinda worried only having piston experience.
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For me it was getting used to the sim and the procedures. All the training I had been through in the past was accomplished in the actual aircraft. The sim was just new to me so there was a bit of a learning curve. Also, all my previous experience was part 91 with little SOPs. The 121 environment is completely different.

The instructors do a good job of picking every little thing out that you are doing wrong, but for good reason. This does get tiring though. I really believe the key to it was showing up ready to learn and studying your butt off.
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