Search

Notices
Career Questions Career advice, interview prep and gouges, job fairs, etc.

MIL to carrier

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-04-2011 | 11:55 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: F-4 E AUP I.P.
Default MIL to carrier

Hello,
I'm an active duty F-4E AUP pilot with the HAF.
My experience is 2010 hrs in F-4, 559 hrs of which are as a backseater (WSO), plus about 250 hrs as a student (T-41D, T-37 B/C, T-2E)
I'm an I.P. (about 300 hrs both front and back seat training), and qualified advanced instructor (series of advanced maneuvers - not all IP''s qualified).
I' m currently serving in the STAN-EVAL office of the C.W. Also I have a CPL/ ATPL theory licence isuued by the HCAA with F-4 !!!!!!!!!!!! type rating.
The question is whether I have any chances to find a desend job as a crew
in an civil company. (if yes I will place another question about the next steps I have to make).

Thanks in advance,
phantnick
Reply
Old 05-04-2011 | 04:54 PM
  #2  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,207
Likes: 816
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

By HAF do you mean Honduran Air Force? Do they have F-4's?

Backseat time means nothing, unless it has dual controls.

Subtract out your WSO time, if that leaves 1500 hours as pilot in an F-4 plus some IP pilot time then you could get a job at a US airline if you have a green card. You may also be able to get hired by certain overseas airlines.
Reply
Old 05-04-2011 | 05:20 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,772
Likes: 1
From: 744 CA
Default

I am thinking Greek ..Helenic ..... either way I am betting its hard for him to get a job somewhere.....
Reply
Old 05-04-2011 | 10:30 PM
  #4  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: F-4 E AUP I.P.
Default

Thanks for your immediate response !

Yes HAF is Hellenic Air Force !

Yes our Phantoms are all with dual controls and all WSO's are only temporary on the back seat (they have the same pilot training with all other single seat pilots until their assingment in the F-4's) and they keep current with IFR ratings.
Reply
Old 05-05-2011 | 07:37 AM
  #5  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,207
Likes: 816
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by phantnick339
Thanks for your immediate response !

Yes HAF is Hellenic Air Force !

Yes our Phantoms are all with dual controls and all WSO's are only temporary on the back seat (they have the same pilot training with all other single seat pilots until their assingment in the F-4's) and they keep current with IFR ratings.
Gotcha. In that case I think the backseat time would qualify as pilot flight time, but I assume the guy in front is normally the PIC? If so, then back seat time could probably safely be logged as SIC for airline purposes.

The best US major airlines will want 1000-1500 hours of turbine PIC, others will accept 1000 hours as either PIC, SIC, or a combination.

Your qualifications are very similar to what US military pilots normally have when they get hired by US majors. You will also need a US ATP (or CPL for some airlines), these should not be too hard to get since you already have Greek equivalents.
Reply
Old 05-05-2011 | 08:40 AM
  #6  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: F-4 E AUP I.P.
Default

The way we fly is that in the front seat is the Pilot in command and we reffer to the WSO as a copilot.
In fact as a WSO you have the chance to fly the airplane but only in the non - tactical part of the mission.
I assume that SIC is second in command ?

thanks again, I think I've got the information I needed.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Guard Dude
Delta
201736
04-06-2022 06:59 AM
beis77
Fractional
21
04-04-2008 10:42 AM
Flying
Military
0
02-24-2008 07:48 AM
Flaps50
Cargo
4
01-19-2008 05:49 AM
1jetpilot
Major
8
12-27-2005 04:16 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices