Hi all,

I'm still fairly new at this, and am wondering if those of you who are currently flying for the fractionals would happen to know which ones except the mil time conversions? and if so, how they calculate it?

For example, I know with the majors SWA accepts .3 extra for every sortie, JB multiplies total mil time by 1.3 (or so I've heard).

I'm just wondering what the deal is with the fractionals, and if they except mil time conversions as well; thanks!

 

Do a search...been covered a few times..

Not sure about the rest but NJ will allow you to multiply your total by 1.2 to help you meet the mins.

Cheers

 

No conversions at CS...

 

Just to clarify what Tweet46 said:

At NJA they only want you to apply the multiplier if you need it to meet the 2500 hr minimum. If you already have more than 2500, then don't do it.

 

dudemize -

Thanks for the clarification here. I assumed that all would use the conversion factor.

USMCFLYR

 

Thanks for the response! I did find NJ in a search as you described, and noted the 1.2 conversion factor.

That's unfortunate that CS doesn't offer it.

Does anyone have any info on Flexjet and whether they use the conversion? I haven't seen anything on their website.

 

I disagree. The application I filled out only said "Military may use a 1.2 conversion - Total aircraft time * 1.2." Nothing about meeting minimums.

 

That's interesting, these guys don't get to fly that much, yet they have some prety good experience. I think the conversion is fair.

My fiancee's friend has a son in Iraq. He's an F-16 guy, and a commander or some type of leadership position. He's coming back in May to take over Andrews AF base in DC. He's been flying for 20 years, his father said something like 4000 tt.

 

UCLA -

You're right. 4000 TT is a lot of flight time for the strike/fighter community (at least in the USN/USMC and I assume the AF is similar). Even if he has been flying for 20+ years - many of those years were spent out of the cockpit on staff tours or schools or most recently Individual Augment billets (IAs).
It is almost impossible for a guy who plans on getting out of the military after his initial commitment to get the 2500 TT that NJ requires; at least without some type of instructional tour under your belt. There are guys I know on this forum who are in that exact position and need that conversion factor to make the mins. I thought the purpose of the conversion factor was founded on the differences in how the military and the civilians log their flight time.
Now the way different companies use the conversion factor confuses me too. Some using 0.2 or 0.3 per sortie and others just multipling TT by 1.2. Haven't figured out yet if the sortie based system is better for the logbook than the TT multiplication. The question still stands though whether NJ wants you to use the conversion if you already have the minimums. When competing against high time civilian pilots, it would still seem to have some place for trying to equate flight time. But I'm sure our many NJ forum friends here could tell us the once and for all truth of the matter!
Thanks in advance.

USMCFLYR

 

yeah, I feel that pain... I'm getting out of the Air Force after my initial committment, and am only at about 1700 TT. Luckily almost all of that is turbine, and at least 1000 is PIC. But it's still low compaired to the industry standard around here (as I'm noticing); I may just have to fly my a#$ off in the reserves for awhile to make myself "competitive".