Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Career Questions
Considering learning to fly >

Considering learning to fly


Notices
Career Questions Career advice, interview prep and gouges, job fairs, etc.

Considering learning to fly

Old 11-23-2011 | 07:51 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default Considering learning to fly

I'm a young professional dissatisfied with my current occupation.
I've spoken with a career counselor and one of the career options that came up was pilot. I have a university degree in an unrelated field.

Looking into the corporate pilot thing. What's the path to that? I'm starting from ground zero. I know bits and pieces but I'm having a very hard time finding a source that outlines a practical course of action.

Thanks! Any input appreciated.
-Peter
Reply
Old 11-24-2011 | 05:32 AM
  #2  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,925
Likes: 698
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Check this out, it's airline oriented but entry-level pilots all start out the same way:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...reer-read.html

A few thoughts...

First off, get a private pilot license (PPL) and go fly around for fun a little bit to see how you like it. If you are having a blast, get an instrument rating and if you still having fun then consider a career.

Don't go into debt, keep your day job and train on the side paying as you go. After you get your CFI, then try to teach part-time at a nearby airport(s) to build time. Since this industry is extremely volatile you never know from day-to-day what employment opportunities will exist so don't quit a good job until you absolutely have to in order to move on.

The regionals are full of five-year FO's who are making $850/month training loan payments on a $30K/year salary...not a great way to spend your best years. Don't go into debt.
Reply
Old 11-24-2011 | 10:02 AM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Check this out, it's airline oriented but entry-level pilots all start out the same way:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...reer-read.html

A few thoughts...

First off, get a private pilot license (PPL) and go fly around for fun a little bit to see how you like it. If you are having a blast, get an instrument rating and if you still having fun then consider a career.

Don't go into debt, keep your day job and train on the side paying as you go. After you get your CFI, then try to teach part-time at a nearby airport(s) to build time. Since this industry is extremely volatile you never know from day-to-day what employment opportunities will exist so don't quit a good job until you absolutely have to in order to move on.

The regionals are full of five-year FO's who are making $850/month training loan payments on a $30K/year salary...not a great way to spend your best years. Don't go into debt.
Great advice. Take note!
Reply
Old 11-24-2011 | 03:39 PM
  #4  
USMCFLYR's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 13,843
Likes: 1
From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Check this out, it's airline oriented but entry-level pilots all start out the same way:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...reer-read.html

A few thoughts...

First off, get a private pilot license (PPL) and go fly around for fun a little bit to see how you like it. If you are having a blast, get an instrument rating and if you still having fun then consider a career.

Don't go into debt, keep your day job and train on the side paying as you go. After you get your CFI, then try to teach part-time at a nearby airport(s) to build time. Since this industry is extremely volatile you never know from day-to-day what employment opportunities will exist so don't quit a good job until you absolutely have to in order to move on.

The regionals are full of five-year FO's who are making $850/month training loan payments on a $30K/year salary...not a great way to spend your best years. Don't go into debt.
Originally Posted by GoPats
Great advice. Take note!
Agreed! Especially rickair's part about getting your feet wet to even find out what you really like and don't like about aviation. Even then you have to keep in mind that professional aviation and recreational aviation are two different animals.

USMCFLYR
Reply
Old 11-24-2011 | 03:49 PM
  #5  
N9373M's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,115
Likes: 1
From: 127.0.0.1
Default

Read up on the medical regulations and get checked out by a non aviation doc. Get everything squared away (if needed) then get a 3rd class medical.

It'll get you used to the med certification process as well as confirm that there is no disqualifying condition for higher classes needed for commercial/ATP if you do decide to go that route.

Good luck!
Reply
Old 11-24-2011 | 03:57 PM
  #6  
USMCFLYR's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 13,843
Likes: 1
From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Default

Originally Posted by N9373M
Read up on the medical regulations and get checked out by a non aviation doc. Get everything squared away (if needed) then get a 3rd class medical.

It'll get you used to the med certification process as well as confirm that there is no disqualifying condition for higher classes needed for commercial/ATP if you do decide to go that route.

Good luck!
I usually agree with this, but if you are interested in going commercial aviation, the first one you get might as well be a 1st class just to be sure that there are no disqualifying conditions. You can let that 1st class degrade over time and continue with appropriate medicals as you progress through training until a 1st class is again required. But if you cant pass a 1st class right now (depending on the problem of course), things rarely get better with time and you should find this out BEFORE you sink money into a career that you won't even be qualified for at a later time.

USMCFLYR
Reply
Old 11-25-2011 | 01:06 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Default

And I'll disagree with that. Go for the 3rd class medical first. If you can't pass the 3rd class, you definitely won't pass the 1st. I had a student who was a born natural. I pushed him to go for the medical exam ASAP. After 3 lessons, he found out he had a major heart problem and had to quit flying. Save your money on the 1st class. You will have plenty of time to upgrade when necessary.
Reply
Old 11-25-2011 | 04:57 PM
  #8  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,925
Likes: 698
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by wizepilot
And I'll disagree with that. Go for the 3rd class medical first. If you can't pass the 3rd class, you definitely won't pass the 1st. I had a student who was a born natural. I pushed him to go for the medical exam ASAP. After 3 lessons, he found out he had a major heart problem and had to quit flying. Save your money on the 1st class. You will have plenty of time to upgrade when necessary.
If you are doing it with career aspirations, even tentative ones, get the first class up front. That way you know where you stand before you start making decisions about prioritizing your time and money.

Not a bad idea to pay for an EKG on your first medical, even if you are too young to require it. That may save you a bad surprise at age 35 after investing a lot of time and money.
Reply
Old 11-25-2011 | 05:20 PM
  #9  
CE750's Avatar
Indian Takeout Driver
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,566
Likes: 0
From: FAR part 347 (91+121+135)
Default

Originally Posted by RipRoar
I'm a young professional dissatisfied with my current occupation.
I've spoken with a career counselor and one of the career options that came up was pilot. I have a university degree in an unrelated field.

Looking into the corporate pilot thing. What's the path to that? I'm starting from ground zero. I know bits and pieces but I'm having a very hard time finding a source that outlines a practical course of action.

Thanks! Any input appreciated.
-Peter
my advise as a 20 year pilot....

DONT
Reply
Old 11-25-2011 | 05:52 PM
  #10  
bcrosier's Avatar
Eats shoots and leaves...
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 849
Likes: 0
From: Didactic Synthetic Aviation Experience Provider
Default

THIS:

Originally Posted by rickair7777
If you are doing it with career aspirations, even tentative ones, get the first class up front. That way you know where you stand before you start making decisions about prioritizing your time and money.

Not a bad idea to pay for an EKG on your first medical, even if you are too young to require it. That may save you a bad surprise at age 35 after investing a lot of time and money.

NOT THIS:

Originally Posted by wizepilot
And I'll disagree with that. Go for the 3rd class medical first. If you can't pass the 3rd class, you definitely won't pass the 1st. I had a student who was a born natural. I pushed him to go for the medical exam ASAP. After 3 lessons, he found out he had a major heart problem and had to quit flying. Save your money on the 1st class. You will have plenty of time to upgrade when necessary.
This is terrible advice if you are wanting to fly professionally - as has been said, you could end up having spent tens of thousands of dollars and be unable to hold a first class medical.

Also, as has been pointed out, flying for recreation and flying professionally are vastly different - don't make the mistake of confusing the two (and unfortunately, it's difficult to understand the latter until you're well into the career). Corporate on the whole may be marginally better than the airlines, but that's due to the wide variation in the quality of operations - some are simply awful (far worse than the airlines), and some are wonderful (FAR, FAR better than the airlines) - you can guess what the competition is like for the good ones.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
captain_drew
Flight Schools and Training
39
12-05-2012 08:29 AM
wifewantstofly
Flight Schools and Training
4
06-09-2010 03:10 PM
ryan1234
Hangar Talk
8
04-02-2010 09:08 AM
covsting76
Military
11
01-14-2010 05:19 PM
hotshot
Hangar Talk
11
09-03-2007 10:38 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices