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Old 06-24-2012, 08:52 AM
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Since a very young age, I have always wanted to be a pilot. I had to abandon my dream of flying for a living many times due to financial and various other constraints. I think that now I am financially stable to take up flight training and would like suggestions and advice from seasoned veterans of aviation.

A little background on myself:
Age: 28
Marital Status: Married/no kids (wife flexible to move)
Housing status: Renting apartment / no mortgages
Education: Bachelor of Science (non – aviation) with high honors
Student loan status: debt-free (no loans)
Employment: Information Technology / $ 60,000 per year

My job is financially rewarding but not self- satisfying so I have come up with a plan that will help finance my flight lessons. My plan is to work in my current field of employment for the next 5-6 years and save as much money as I can. Having said that, I can set aside $ 70k for flight training when I will be 34 and that’s when I can start taking flying lessons. I will try to get my PPL by that time.

After my PPL, I plan on taking aviation classes head on and leave my current job. I am thinking of taking accelerated course where one can finish to CFI-ME in 90 days. I am sure you guys already know what school that is. I even though about taking flight lessons on weekends and finish to CFI-ME in 5 years but that will be very difficult since my job is stressful and I work as a consultant on contract. What are your thoughts on PPL to CFI-ME in 90 days? Is it a good idea or would you suggest spanning this over 5 years of time? I have a feeling that I would forget some stuff in this long span of 5 years. One of the good things about that accelerated program is that, graduates are guaranteed instructor job upon completion of program. This will help me build time too. Thoughts, suggestions, advice?

My final destination is Asia and I would like to bypass regionals in the US if I could. I am a US citizen originally from Nepal so I would like to be based pretty much anywhere in Asia but India or China would be close and great for me regarding commute. For the first couple of years of my aviation career I will be able to survive on $2k to 3k per month salary. I have some inheritance, other nominal source of income and savings from my current job will provide some cushion for the starting years. Would you suggest building some time at regionals in the US and taking shot at Asian airlines or jumping to any Asian gig after my training here in the US?

I have read plenty of threads here on the forum and have done my homework; and my desire to fly for a living does not come from Shiny Jet Syndrome but rather a calculated risk. I am a hard-working person and got through college without any loan and a degree with honors. I was able to come out of college debt-free because I worked a full time job while going to college full time and worked 70 hours a week in the summer to stay afloat despite paying international rate of tuition (3 times the rate of instate tuition). With due respect, I am trying to say that I can work hard and I will work hard to fulfill my dream of flying .For some reasons, if I can’t fulfill my dream of a professional aviator I will have lost 70k of my money but I would have no loans to pay and with some education and training I could go back to my desk job. It’s better to have loved and lost than not loved at all! At least I will not have to look up in the sky every time I see a plane flying over me and live with this guilt that maybe I could have become that person if I ever tried! The cure to aviation bug-bite is very hard to overcome!

The guys here on this forum are doing a great job. I did my homework and read plenty from this forum and pprune. In my honest opinion, guys here are very helpful and supportive compared to the other forum where most questions are mocked upon. Also this forum is clutter-free and organized. Kudos to the moderators and contributors for doing a great job.

Thank you for taking time to read and shed light

Stay safe and happy flying!
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"After my PPL, I plan on taking aviation classes head on and leave my current job. I am thinking of taking accelerated course where one can finish to CFI-ME in 90 days. I am sure you guys already know what school that is. I even though about taking flight lessons on weekends and finish to CFI-ME in 5 years but that will be very difficult since my job is stressful and I work as a consultant on contract. What are your thoughts on PPL to CFI-ME in 90 days? Is it a good idea or would you suggest spanning this over 5 years of time? I have a feeling that I would forget some stuff in this long span of 5 years. One of the good things about that accelerated program is that, graduates are guaranteed instructor job upon completion of program. This will help me build time too. Thoughts, suggestions, advice?"

This is what I did and I would recommend against it. A lot of these schools are basically ratings mills. The education quality is minimal as well as their fiscal integrity. You could lose a lot of money literally overnight (plenty of horror stories online - believe them).
Be careful of these employment guarantees. You could end up getting a handful of hours per month being employed by a school you may not like very much. Get details.

I would suggest that you stick with your current job, train on the side locally, pay-as-you-go and start instructing there when the time comes. By that time, you'll know if this school is a place you'd like to work at and possibly scan the rest of the region for other school possibilities.

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"I would suggest that you stick with your current job, train on the side locally, pay-as-you-go and start instructing there when the time comes. By that time, you'll know if this school is a place you'd like to work at and possibly scan the rest of the region for other school possibilities."

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"After my PPL, I plan on taking aviation classes head on and leave my current job. I am thinking of taking accelerated course where one can finish to CFI-ME in 90 days. I am sure you guys already know what school that is. I even though about taking flight lessons on weekends and finish to CFI-ME in 5 years but that will be very difficult since my job is stressful and I work as a consultant on contract. What are your thoughts on PPL to CFI-ME in 90 days? Is it a good idea or would you suggest spanning this over 5 years of time? I have a feeling that I would forget some stuff in this long span of 5 years. One of the good things about that accelerated program is that, graduates are guaranteed instructor job upon completion of program. This will help me build time too. Thoughts, suggestions, advice?"

This is what I did and I would recommend against it. A lot of these schools are basically ratings mills. The education quality is minimal as well as their fiscal integrity. You could lose a lot of money literally overnight (plenty of horror stories online - believe them).
Be careful of these employment guarantees. You could end up getting a handful of hours per month being employed by a school you may not like very much. Get details.

I would suggest that you stick with your current job, train on the side locally, pay-as-you-go and start instructing there when the time comes. By that time, you'll know if this school is a place you'd like to work at and possibly scan the rest of the region for other school possibilities.

Good luck.
I was looking at the 90 day accelerated program by ATP
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I agree with the last post. I took the same route and in fact I did it all from zero in a 150 days right before the prices went up another 10k. It wasn't easy but I was prepared. I was a professional flight student that switched to aviation management because I didn't want my college degree and flight training to cost me 150k. I think I took all of the aviation classes the school offered and some weather (earth and science) classes. Having taken PPL, Instrument and commercial ground classes I was able to easily pass the written and already knew most of the material. I suggest you do the same if you are seriously going to take that route. Small flight schools usually offer the classes but i'm not sure how good they are compared to college classes. The good thing is that they are really cheap. I worked at a school that had the class for less than $300 with some books included. Most will advise you to keep your current job and take flight lessons on the side at a local flight school till you're finished. It's the cheapest route and also at a very low risk since you won't have to quit your job. The fast track route is not for everyone. I started with guys that never saw the end of it. The chances of you failing check rides are also high because you're on a time line and may feel the pressure of taking an exam that you're not ready for. You are already taking the right steps to go about it. Once you decide on what to do, stick to your plan and don't let SJS get to you. Good Luck!
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thank you for sharing your thoughts....hope to hear more thoughts on this by other seasoned aviators

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good suggestion. thank you sir
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With my work as a contractor, i work on projects and move on to a different location (city, state) when the project is done and whatever project i find. so in a way, i am moving constantly which would make it difficult to take flight lessons from a particular location. thats why i was proposing the idea of 90 day course.
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To fly as a contract pilot in Asia, you will need a type rating in a current airliner, probably a 1,000 hours of command time before any of those carriers will look at you. The low time FO positions are for locals. Gettin a wet ATP and heading to Asia is a pipedream.

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To fly as a contract pilot in Asia, you will need a type rating in a current airliner, probably a 1,000 hours of command time before any of those carriers will look at you. The low time FO positions are for locals. Gettin a wet ATP and heading to Asia is a pipedream.

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so there is no bypassing US regional airlines?

would you recommend building >1000 PIC and then applying with Asian airlines? Like I said, I am a US citizen but was born and raised in Nepal and lived there for 20 years.
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