usmc-sgt

Makes more sense...The more common failure is in the flight portion. The oral can be controlled. If you simply study your rear end off and know the material, it is highly unlikely that you will fail an oral. There are many contributing factors that could cause you to fail the practical that could possibly be beyond your control. The oral is also subjective. The examiner has to "perceive" that you passed it and know the material. They could know how many questions they ask and keep track of how many you got wrong but I have not seen that done before. It is usually they think you know the material or they dont.

captain152

Not the first time I've heard of anyone busting on an oral (I busted my CFI oral as well (had the pleasure of taking it in OKC with a guy that was also training another upcoming examiner. Needless to say my confidence was shot before the checkride even started.)). It's the first I've heard of anyone busting the same one more than once though.

As others have said it sounds like you just simply were in too much of a rush to try to get the license. You are young, and have plenty of time to build hours and experience before the airlines are able to hire you. If you're interested in it, the military sounds like it would be an amazing path for you. If not, networking into the right seat of a corporate gig while getting a 4-yr degree (can't stress the importance of the degree) would also be an awesome idea.

Above all else though - ENJOY LIFE. Go out and have fun. Obey the law and be smart about things. You'll never get these years back so explore a bit!

Beech90

Which was the problem for me. I focused my studying on all the wrong things. No excuses what so ever, I know.

When the hiring board sees this, what will be their reaction? ( Assuming I pass all the 135 checks, ATP all the first time)

Beech90

I'm getting the degree done. I have about 15 credits so far. I'm enjoying life.

rickair7777

I think you'll be OK as far as interviewers are concerned since you were so young and will have so much water under the bridge by then.

The bad news is that there might be a few companies (concerned with lawsuits and the media) that simply have a "hard deck" on checkride failures...you might not even be able to get an interview with these.

Since you have so much time to kill...I'd probably shoot for ME TPIC, glass cockpit and jet if you can get it. That way you might be in a position to apply to majors when you start at a regional (maybe you'll still need regional 121 experience, but maybe you won't). It's entirely reasonable that you might be able to get a major job with a year or so of 121 RJ time, if you have plenty of TPIC before age 23.

This assumes you get a degree somewhere along the line...

Beech90

How much TPIC?

rickair7777

1000 is the minimum, 2000 would be better (SWA has required > 1000 TPIC at certain times).

Beech90

So 2,000 TPIC 5,000 TT 3,000 Multi with a 4 year degree and ATP would get me hired with the busts?

Grumble

No one can tell you what will get you hired next month, let alone 5 years from now. You have a four year degree to get first. Fly through college, and when you come out the other end let the chips fall where they may.

You can't write a plan for a career in this industry like you're trying to do. Fly when you can and what you can, go to college, get as prepared as you can, and be ready when opportunity comes along. Beyond that, it's out of your control.

Diesel450

Those should Get you an interview. It's up to your personality, knowledge and state of mind that will get you a job.