Another guy in need of career advice.
12-30-2012 | 06:43 AM
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Just an observation, but what are you more concerned with:Low flight time or going to a regional? If its the time and you don't feel too stable at your current job check out a regional. It really isn't all that bad, there will be plenty of movement soon and if you want to fly more just call scheduling, they'll find something for you. I passed up a corporate job years ago to come to XJT and I never regretted it. I figured I ended up with more time (quality and quantity) and made several contacts at various places I want to move onto.
12-30-2012 | 09:33 AM
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This is counter-intuitive. Almost nobody goes to the regionals because they would rather be there than a major. It's a stepping stone, and hard to avoid.
Your most realistic option to avoid regionals would be look into military flying opportunities.
You might also get lucky due to timing...if a serious pilot shortage develops in 5-10 years, majors might be hiring anyone with 1500 hours and turbine time. But I wouldn't plan my career around the "pilot shortage"
Your most realistic option to avoid regionals would be look into military flying opportunities.
You might also get lucky due to timing...if a serious pilot shortage develops in 5-10 years, majors might be hiring anyone with 1500 hours and turbine time. But I wouldn't plan my career around the "pilot shortage"
12-30-2012 | 09:38 AM
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A guy of that age from DAL did not retire because he wanted to or because he didn't like his career.
He retired because a few years ago DAL was about to enter bankruptcy and liquidate (or severely reduce) their retirement plan. DAL pilots who retired before BK had the option of taking a defined benefit (pension) or lump sum. The pension would have been lost in BK, but if you retired before BK and took the lump sum, they had to pay up and that was yours to keep. For a 30-year CA, the lump sum could have been several million dollars...THAT's probably why he retired.
There are several ex-DAL CA's slinging gear at SKW...and they're all millionaires.
12-30-2012 | 10:23 AM
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This is 100% incorrect info.
A guy of that age from DAL did not retire because he wanted to or because he didn't like his career.
He retired because a few years ago DAL was about to enter bankruptcy and liquidate (or severely reduce) their retirement plan. DAL pilots who retired before BK had the option of taking a defined benefit (pension) or lump sum. The pension would have been lost in BK, but if you retired before BK and took the lump sum, they had to pay up and that was yours to keep. For a 30-year CA, the lump sum could have been several million dollars...THAT's probably why he retired.
There are several ex-DAL CA's slinging gear at SKW...and they're all millionaires.
A guy of that age from DAL did not retire because he wanted to or because he didn't like his career.
He retired because a few years ago DAL was about to enter bankruptcy and liquidate (or severely reduce) their retirement plan. DAL pilots who retired before BK had the option of taking a defined benefit (pension) or lump sum. The pension would have been lost in BK, but if you retired before BK and took the lump sum, they had to pay up and that was yours to keep. For a 30-year CA, the lump sum could have been several million dollars...THAT's probably why he retired.
There are several ex-DAL CA's slinging gear at SKW...and they're all millionaires.
Whats incorrect? He retired because he was going to lose a ton of money if he didn't. He left the job because it was going downhill for him. That job (delta prior to BK ) is gone and the new one is not as good.
the OP can't get the job his captain used to have. All that is left is what his captain left.
The OP is already 28 with only 1200 hours. He is getting some great experience but certainly not ahead of the power curve by much. I just wanted him to think about options and not get stuck on being a 777 International pilot as the end all. How many guys even do that job in the
USA?
edit: I do think I could have worded it better about why he left.
Last edited by Airbum; 12-30-2012 at 10:25 AM. Reason: edit
12-30-2012 | 02:43 PM
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Whats incorrect? He retired because he was going to lose a ton of money if he didn't. He left the job because it was going downhill for him. That job (delta prior to BK ) is gone and the new one is not as good.
the OP can't get the job his captain used to have. All that is left is what his captain left.
The OP is already 28 with only 1200 hours. He is getting some great experience but certainly not ahead of the power curve by much. I just wanted him to think about options and not get stuck on being a 777 International pilot as the end all. How many guys even do that job in the
USA?
edit: I do think I could have worded it better about why he left.
the OP can't get the job his captain used to have. All that is left is what his captain left.
The OP is already 28 with only 1200 hours. He is getting some great experience but certainly not ahead of the power curve by much. I just wanted him to think about options and not get stuck on being a 777 International pilot as the end all. How many guys even do that job in the
USA?
edit: I do think I could have worded it better about why he left.
But yes, the OP should consider all options, especially since he has fallen into the corporate track as a low-timer.
12-30-2012 | 04:44 PM
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Not sure what your ultimate goal is but, if you are looking to get into, airline flying (not recomended) choose a place that has lots of attrition and fast upgrades (e.g. CommuteAir, Silver). Be mindful though that the attrition and fast upgrades are there for a reason. Bad pay and poor QOL. If you can afford it, thats the route I would take to fast track it to the majors airlines.
Regionals are a hard way to make a living but you will get plenty of flight time and it will be twin turbine time. The pilots are top notch for the most part from my experience. As always there will be a few tools also.
Good luck
Regionals are a hard way to make a living but you will get plenty of flight time and it will be twin turbine time. The pilots are top notch for the most part from my experience. As always there will be a few tools also.
Good luck
12-30-2012 | 05:53 PM
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The OP is already 28 with only 1200 hours. He is getting some great experience but certainly not ahead of the power curve by much. I just wanted him to think about options and not get stuck on being a 777 International pilot as the end all. How many guys even do that job in the
USA?
USA?
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