Will going to the regionals hurt me?
#21
I am bumming at the squadron, and plan on keeping that up. I'm getting recency and gaining PIC time, as well as making ends meet. Its just that I spend A LOT of time at home staring at the walls. I live in domicile for this particular regional so I'm thinking the extra money/experience/fall back might be worth it. However, it won't be worth it if in 9 months a major calls and during the interview says "Didn't you just get hired at regional X?"
You say that you got a call right away - but you are the type that I understand Regionals often pass over for that very reason. You are positioned to make that move and are competitive.
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#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
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I didn't read anything in the OP that inferred a "too good" for regional attitude however this thread would probably be better served in the mil section. The mil haters are definately going to come out of the woodwork with a "will regionals hurt me" title. Lesson learned.
I drill in a mil unit that has sent LOTS of guy to the top tier legacy/majors and we have several guys in your similar situation. Its been established that getting some 121 experience will round out your resume. That said, I'm gonna approach it from a different angle.
I think the industry is at a critical point now where there just aren't enough guys willing to work for $20k a year to fly airplanes. The FAA wont let anyone hire a 250hr guy with a wet commercial so the supply of qualified new guys for regionals is very low. The regionals are shrinking, 50 seaters are going away, the majors are upgauging, Eagle is even offering a $5k signing bonus.
All that being said I think its likely that anyone who takes a job at a regional just for resume enhancement is possibly looking at a break even proposition. Yes you may be called for a major interview sooner than another mil guy without 121 experience, however by taking a job at a regional, you may actually just be delaying that same major from reclaiming the same route (and hiring new pilots to fly it) you're flying for a fraction of the cost.
There are several thousand major pilots still on furlough and lots of regionals flying jets on (former legacy) routes over 900nm. Once guys start retiring in large numbers and the majors recall and hire its only a matter of time before the regionals shift some flying back to mainline. That is unless a fresh batch of pilots walks into the regionals enabling them to maintain the current staffing levels. If they lose people, they will in turn be forced to consolidate.
One other thing to consider is that right now the OP probably has a pretty good schedule and less, but still decent cash flow as a reservist flying with quality guys/gals. That may not be the case sitting reserve at the bottom of a list without a lot of new hires coming in below you and flying with the problem child CA's that everyone else is avoiding on their bids.
Since the OP was looking for advice here's my take on your personal situation. If you have the advanced quals EP/IP/Natops etc. for your mil a/c I would probably go to work for the regional in question if the domicile you live in is one of the junior ones. If you don't have those quals I'd focus on getting them, 121 experience won't make up for area's lacking in your mil life. If you have the quals and don't have to commute you'll get some good experience and have the ability to drop lots of mil leave to avoid (most) bad deals. Plan to be gone on holidays.
I drill in a mil unit that has sent LOTS of guy to the top tier legacy/majors and we have several guys in your similar situation. Its been established that getting some 121 experience will round out your resume. That said, I'm gonna approach it from a different angle.
I think the industry is at a critical point now where there just aren't enough guys willing to work for $20k a year to fly airplanes. The FAA wont let anyone hire a 250hr guy with a wet commercial so the supply of qualified new guys for regionals is very low. The regionals are shrinking, 50 seaters are going away, the majors are upgauging, Eagle is even offering a $5k signing bonus.
All that being said I think its likely that anyone who takes a job at a regional just for resume enhancement is possibly looking at a break even proposition. Yes you may be called for a major interview sooner than another mil guy without 121 experience, however by taking a job at a regional, you may actually just be delaying that same major from reclaiming the same route (and hiring new pilots to fly it) you're flying for a fraction of the cost.
There are several thousand major pilots still on furlough and lots of regionals flying jets on (former legacy) routes over 900nm. Once guys start retiring in large numbers and the majors recall and hire its only a matter of time before the regionals shift some flying back to mainline. That is unless a fresh batch of pilots walks into the regionals enabling them to maintain the current staffing levels. If they lose people, they will in turn be forced to consolidate.
One other thing to consider is that right now the OP probably has a pretty good schedule and less, but still decent cash flow as a reservist flying with quality guys/gals. That may not be the case sitting reserve at the bottom of a list without a lot of new hires coming in below you and flying with the problem child CA's that everyone else is avoiding on their bids.
Since the OP was looking for advice here's my take on your personal situation. If you have the advanced quals EP/IP/Natops etc. for your mil a/c I would probably go to work for the regional in question if the domicile you live in is one of the junior ones. If you don't have those quals I'd focus on getting them, 121 experience won't make up for area's lacking in your mil life. If you have the quals and don't have to commute you'll get some good experience and have the ability to drop lots of mil leave to avoid (most) bad deals. Plan to be gone on holidays.
#25
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You should go to the regional since the legagcies will only hire people that are current, unless there is something else you could do in the interium. Although, like everybody else said, a legacy likes to hire military but they prefer prior 121, both would put you at the top of the list and if you're a minority you will get a call tomorrow.
#26
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In a similar circumstance, I had the same question. And came to a similar decision. the smaller regional can't hurt, and probably only help. As a retired mil guy, I don't have too many years in an airline cockpit left. Gotta get them where ever they may be. Interview in mid Feb with AE.
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My sim partner in my initial class was a 20 year retired Lt. Col. in the Air Force. He flew right seat in the RJ for a couple years and now flies for Southwest. He just did it to stay current and get some 121 time.
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I think the industry is at a critical point now where there just aren't enough guys willing to work for $20k a year to fly airplanes. The FAA wont let anyone hire a 250hr guy with a wet commercial so the supply of qualified new guys for regionals is very low. The regionals are shrinking, 50 seaters are going away, the majors are upgauging, Eagle is even offering a $5k signing bonus.
There are several thousand major pilots still on furlough and lots of regionals flying jets on (former legacy) routes over 900nm. Once guys start retiring in large numbers and the majors recall and hire its only a matter of time before the regionals shift some flying back to mainline. That is unless a fresh batch of pilots walks into the regionals enabling them to maintain the current staffing levels. If they lose people, they will in turn be forced to consolidate.
Sucks, but I don't see majors shifting $37/hr FO's for $100/hr FO's anytime soon.
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