Search

Notices
Career Questions Career advice, interview prep and gouges, job fairs, etc.

Logging Simulator Time

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-2013 | 11:45 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Inverted
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: CL65 CA
Default Logging Simulator Time

Looking for some advice as how to handle logging Level D Sim time I've acquired at my regional. I'm starting to apply and have an interview coming up and do not want to be asked any questions over something silly like logging SIM time in my logbook. A lot of places I have applied do not want SIM Time counted toward their Total Time requirement, so I have set my logbook Pro up to not count it towards TT, but I do have the entries in there. Is it required to but the FAA Sim registration number in the logbook, possibly the location (e.g. Flight Safety)?
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 12:16 PM
  #2  
Ottopilot's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,576
Likes: 0
From: 737 CA
Default

Sim time is logged in one column: "simulator". It's never flight time; you never left the ground. You do not count it as total flight time, since you were not flying.
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 01:00 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Inverted
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: CL65 CA
Default

Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Sim time is logged in one column: "simulator". It's never flight time; you never left the ground. You do not count it as total flight time, since you were not flying.
Otto, thanks for your post. I understand what you mean by flight time, but the question then could be asked, what does Total Time mean, only flight time? And do you know if when entering SIM time, if the SIM FAA number is required?
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 01:41 PM
  #4  
Ottopilot's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,576
Likes: 0
From: 737 CA
Default

Originally Posted by aviatorpr
Otto, thanks for your post. I understand what you mean by flight time, but the question then could be asked, what does Total Time mean, only flight time? And do you know if when entering SIM time, if the SIM FAA number is required?
I've never entered the FAA number, but then I don't care anymore. After 7 airline type ratings and annual sim flying, it doesn't matter to me. I've put every "loggable" sim in the sim column. I doubt anyone would want the FAA number or level. If its at an airline, they can verify you flew it in training.

Total time is total flight time, so I never put it there. Simulator is logged as simulated flight time.
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 01:51 PM
  #5  
HSLD's Avatar
APC co-founder
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,853
Likes: 0
From: B777
Default

Airlines are concerned with Flight Time in aircraft and Total Time is generally meant as Total Flight Time. Some pilot logbooks are set up for pilots in training to log sim time because it can be counted towards a rating. However, in an airline interview I wouldn't bother emphasizing sim time. If you do have a "sim" column in your logbook that you're adding into the "Total" column, just make sure Total-Sim=Flight Time.
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 02:10 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
Default

Is there any need to even log sim time?
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 02:15 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Inverted
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
From: CL65 CA
Default

Otto and HSLD, thank you both for your contributions and guidance on this topic
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 02:55 PM
  #8  
RunwayOneSix's Avatar
Hope to Get Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by jackal24
Is there any need to even log sim time?
For currency.
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 03:01 PM
  #9  
Senior Skipper's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,422
Likes: 0
From: the correct seat
Default

Agree with what others have posted. SIM time is not part of your total time.
Reply
Old 02-06-2013 | 03:25 PM
  #10  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,618
Likes: 557
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

I always logged the type of sim (ex ATC920) and the location. Tribal knowledge was that this was an FAA requirement, and it does make sense so there's some accountability if anyone (the FAA) ever needs to go back and verify your history.

As others have said, sim time is not "flight time", which has an FAR definition requiring an aircraft that actually flies.

"Total Time" is defined by the FAA, it can be whatever you want it to be.

But be very careful mixing flight time with anything else. When employers (especially 121) ask about flight time or total time they mean actual aircraft. If you give them a number including sim time or any other non-flight time without calling that out they'll probably assume you're trying to pad your time. Buh-Bye!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
UNDGUY
Career Questions
20
10-28-2021 08:38 PM
AtlCSIP
Career Questions
5
05-05-2016 10:49 PM
Bellanca
Flight Schools and Training
32
02-26-2011 02:18 PM
Agentessa
Flight Schools and Training
18
11-20-2009 01:43 PM
moelost
Flight Schools and Training
3
11-15-2007 01:32 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices