Mod Note: I have reposted this from the Intro section for this newbie. Please try to go gentle with this fella. Nothing sucks as much as failing training, but then it's possible he needs to find another career altogether. Not everyone can be a pilot - look at me!

 

Republic training is FAST and FURIOUS. It requires you to have good study habits as you are on your own for a lot of it. I just went through upgrade, had 14 new hires in my class. One failed out, one probably should have but the company gave him a LOT of extra sim time, and MANY of the new FO's failed their first check ride but passed on the second attempt.

 

Training at Cape is TOUGH for new hire captains, much less so for FO's. I would go to Republic if your main concern is washing out of training.

 

Oh dear.

Is this a dilemma, a Hobson's Choice, or a Morton's Fork?

tomgoodman - I need your help here. After all, you were the one who taught the forums the difference between an oxymoron and a tautology.

 

Does the OP actually have job offers at both?

I can't vouch for Republic training, but I do have an E-Jet type and have been through Cape Air training as well. Cape Air was harder. But then, I was younger. Who knows. Depends on your strengths and weaknesses. Cape Air is no place for a weak stick, they will show you the door pretty quick if they think you can't fly single engine and talk on the radio while running an emergency procedure at the same time. Embraer way of doing things is much more relaxed IMHO but you do need to be able to push buttons on an FMS.

 

It really depends on why you failed out of Piedmont training. I don't have experience with either company, but Cape Air would be asking you to be a single pilot PIC carrying around their passengers in challenging weather, and they have an enviable safety record I'm sure they like to keep. I agree with the earlier poster that say if you're not absolutely confident in your ability to fly a 402, at gross weight, single engine, communicate on the radio, while maintaining calmness in front of their passengers they'll probably wash you out in very short order. Don't make the mistake of thinking that if the airplane is "less complicated" that it'll be easier. It won't.

I'll let others speak to the challenges of getting through 175 (or Q400) training at RAH, but the advice you get would be a lot morrow helpful if we knew why you failed out of training.

It's also worth considering your future goals. If you want to be an airline pilot, go be an airline pilot. If you harbor other goals (corp, etc) Cape Air might be an eternal choice.

 

Ive been at both and it really depends on your personal goals. If its to fly jets then go to Rah. If its to work for a great company with a unique mission, Cape Air is right. I could go on, but please PM me if youd like to talk at length. I loved my time at Cape and Rah gave me my jet time. I will say that of the 2, management at Cape Air FAR surpasses that at rah and has a happier pilot group.
Pm me

 

For all I know, it's a Buridan's...um...Donkey.

 

Maybe go SIC for a 135 company to get some experience and get some more confidence.....the standards are typically "way lower" because you are just trying to meet the SIC standards/insurance requirements. Example: minimal automation knowledge required (depending on the particular aircraft) as well as no steep turns, no single engine missed, etc. on the SIC checkride. Just a thought and my recommendation for sure.....especially if you have had trouble in the past with a structured 121 program......go get some experience, the airlines aren't going anywhere.

 

Hey Bozo, I am not sure how to PM you. Where do I find PM? I have spent a few minutes looking around, but I am unable to find it.