What are considered Nexgen Avionics?
07-10-2014, 07:51 AM
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What are considered Nexgen Avionics?
I am filling out a job application and one of the "checkmarks" is related to amount of time operating aircraft with "next generation avionics".
I can't find a good definition of what aircraft equipment would be considered "Next Generation" equipment.
Opinions on what would qualify? Also is there such a thing as "next generation" compatible equipment be considered "Next generation avionics"
I have looked on the FAA website and understand about Performance based Navigation and RNAV procedures but I am still confused about what type of equipment would be defined as Next generation that is onboard an aircraft.
Does a Garmin G1000 come close?
Since it is a checkmark it would obviously improve the application but at the risk of asking a stupid question I don't want to look ignorant on an application.
Any ideas?
I can't find a good definition of what aircraft equipment would be considered "Next Generation" equipment.
Opinions on what would qualify? Also is there such a thing as "next generation" compatible equipment be considered "Next generation avionics"
I have looked on the FAA website and understand about Performance based Navigation and RNAV procedures but I am still confused about what type of equipment would be defined as Next generation that is onboard an aircraft.
Does a Garmin G1000 come close?
Since it is a checkmark it would obviously improve the application but at the risk of asking a stupid question I don't want to look ignorant on an application.
Any ideas?
07-11-2014, 08:15 PM
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The smartass answer is that anything the airlines don't have is NextGen. 
That said, anything that is RNAV/RNP approved is a good start. The Garmin G1000 should qualify. I think what they are really looking for is evidence that are you not just flying a VOR-to-VOR plane or hitting "Direct To" all the time.
One of many lessons about airline applications is this: don't over-analyze stuff.
That said, anything that is RNAV/RNP approved is a good start. The Garmin G1000 should qualify. I think what they are really looking for is evidence that are you not just flying a VOR-to-VOR plane or hitting "Direct To" all the time.
One of many lessons about airline applications is this: don't over-analyze stuff.
07-11-2014, 09:20 PM
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NextGen, FANS and Capstone are stupid names/acronyms. I mean, seriously, it was nextgen what, 10-15 years ago, what is it now? Now we got flippin touchscreens that blue-tooth to our iPads. And capstone? So nothing better can ever come? Future nav system? Well, if you are using and making it now, it's not "future", in addition to the next ANYTHING that is developed renders it "Old Air Navigation System".
07-12-2014, 07:45 AM
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Anything with WAAS and or ADSB (TIS, weather, mode S) would be part of NextGen. If you looked at a weather radar plot in the last 10 years, you used NEXRAD (next generation weather radar). I wonder what they'll call the new stuff?
07-12-2014, 08:27 AM
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We don't actually have Nextgen; just some of the technology in use and development that are components, parts, pieces of Nextgen. True Nextgen is the, fairly defined, goal of total and seamless integration between aircraft, satellite and ground based facilities/aspects. It is my hope that during this process we can get back to some reasonable form of standardization as well. It used to be you attended training to learn the aircraft, now the emphasis is on learning the various "boxes"/ avionics suites, Etc. Though with any transition phase their will be issues...
07-12-2014, 08:34 AM
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Google NEXTGEN or search on FAA.GOV web site. It is a set of technologies, infrastructure, procedures, etc designed to modernize aviation. We are moving away from ground based radar surveillance and separation of air traffic. As many have already commented, several technologies comprise NEXTGEN:
C-Communications
N- Navigation
S- Surveillance
GPS/WAAS/GBAS/GLS
RNAV RNP AR with RF legs
ADS-B Out (mandatory for most aircraft by 2020)
ADS-B In (optional) but will facilitate receipt of pretty close to "real time" traffic, weather reports and wx radar info
CPDLC- Text Messaging of ATC instructions/clearances
Boeing calls the NEXTGEN package "FANS" = Future Air Navigation System.
C-Communications
N- Navigation
S- Surveillance
GPS/WAAS/GBAS/GLS
RNAV RNP AR with RF legs
ADS-B Out (mandatory for most aircraft by 2020)
ADS-B In (optional) but will facilitate receipt of pretty close to "real time" traffic, weather reports and wx radar info
CPDLC- Text Messaging of ATC instructions/clearances
Boeing calls the NEXTGEN package "FANS" = Future Air Navigation System.
07-12-2014, 08:44 AM
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The Garmin 1000 suite is part of it, but does not have all the NEXTGEN capabilities yet. ADS-B, RNP, and CPDLC would all be an add-on "boxes" that could possibly interface with it in the future.
TIS is not ADS-B but works similar to it. TIS information is delayed (not real time). ADS-B IN traffic info will be appx 1 second "old"
Think of it this way-
Your current 4096 code Mode-C Transponder will Eventually be a "backup device" to ADS-B.
TIS is not ADS-B but works similar to it. TIS information is delayed (not real time). ADS-B IN traffic info will be appx 1 second "old"
Think of it this way-
Your current 4096 code Mode-C Transponder will Eventually be a "backup device" to ADS-B.
07-12-2014, 11:09 AM
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The g1000 already does "ads-b" in, depending on what aircraft it's installed in, it will do RNP approaches too, but part 91 operators are usually not authorized for those.
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