MartinC08

How does ones PRIA look if a pilot went through in house 135 training for a non typed plane, have performance issues (no checkride was failed)resigned, but came back a few months later to complete all training?

kls81

I have about 800 multi, which the majority of that is VFR as well. The single engine stuff is a mix of part 135 vfr, flying to the islands in Lake Erie, cfi(500 hours) and most recently law enforcement flying. Consists mainly of aerial airspeed enforcement. We are required to stay ifr current here.

I also did a lot of co-piloting in Cheyennes and King-airs in the first job. I flew the part 91 legs. That time is logged but the other legs aren't due to not being a required crewmember. I mainly worked the radios, set up approaches. Etc.

Thanks,
Ken

ATCsaidDoWhat

That's good time. Multi turbine even if not as PIC puts you in a much different operating environment than just SEL and a small amount of multi.

I left my first CFI job at a 141 university flight school with1600 SE hours and about 50 in Aztec's and a KA200 and took a 60% pay cut to fly right seat in a Navajo to get multi time that was just not available where I was. While it wasn't PIC time except on empty legs, it put 600 hours in my book is 7 months.

That led to a right seat in an SD3-30 which later led to a left seat and a legacy job 18 months after leaving the CFI job. And in between I got 2 winters and summers full of NE flying with no autopilots or much else. It was that experience that got the job.

Yours will too. Keep sending resumes. Don't overlook cargo for a legacy. Companies like Atlas are amazingly stable, have strong balance sheets and great management. That means they aren't tied to the discretionary spending of a passenger economy and furloughs are less possible over the long term. The flying is amazing and the equipment ain't shabby.

Good luck!

outaluckagain

Ther CRJ standards courses that are being provided by various sources do help a great deal. I am not advocating paying for this though, this will be up to you.

I am just looking at the evidence that shows how much some CRJ transition training will help get a pilot up to speed before reporting to training. Many people have benefited from this training.

The argument is being made here is legitimate, but not the only argument that can be made. The other poster is claiming you need some Baron time before transitioning. Well, let me tell you that I would go sit in the right seat of a Baron for 500 hours if I could, but most of these companies don't have right seat baron programs. The Captain slots are limited.

No denial that experience helps, but Baron time isn't going to get a guy up to speed on CRJ procedures like a CRJ standards course will.

So to answer your question, all of the guys who took the CRJ transition passed, while the others didn't. I can't speak for everyone though.

outaluckagain

You need your 1500 total, so obviously some 135 time under actual IFR would be great. The point I want to make is that the transition to 121 glass and jet will be a big jump. Don't sell yourself short by not getting some 121 training first.

outaluckagain

Have a look for yourself.

kls81

I saw ATP has 4 day and a 7 day RJ course. 2,500 and 5,000 respectively. If someone was considering this, would the 4 day be enough of an intro to the real training?

rickair7777

It's a waste of money unless you're very wealthy or have a long track record of training problems.

CRJ is easy to learn and fly unless your so old that you just don't "get" technology.

outaluckagain

I would say that the CRJ course is all about mastering the technology before reporting to training. The age factor may come into play, but don't forget different learning styles. Some of us need a precursor course prior to entering the real thing.

Could very well be a waste of time for people who allready get the technology aspect.

By the way, is the Wilco CRJ sim any good?

mike734

Failing out of training is often more a reflection on the training department. Then again, you might not be cut out for airline flying. Only you can know for sure. I wish those two boneheads that crashes the Q400 in Buffalo had giving up on the dream before they killed those innocent people. If you think they were truly wrong in cutting you then, by all means try again. But don't hesitate in changing careers if you really can't hack it.