Log Books...Regular or Computer...
#12
No. It looks cheesy. Also, don't spiral bind it, for the same reason. It looks really cheesy.
Buy a professional binder, like this one for example.
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When it's time to print out your logbook, send the file over to Kinkos and print it on their green paper. It's a 99% match to the paper used in the Jeppesen paper logbooks.
Or have fun with it; applying at jetBlue? Print it on blue paper. Spirit? Yellow paper. You get the idea.
Buy a professional binder, like this one for example.
Thank you to our customers! We're trying to respond to*you*as quickly as possible! - Logbook Solutions-Home
When it's time to print out your logbook, send the file over to Kinkos and print it on their green paper. It's a 99% match to the paper used in the Jeppesen paper logbooks.
Or have fun with it; applying at jetBlue? Print it on blue paper. Spirit? Yellow paper. You get the idea.
Don't be a sucker and pay $100 for special paper or binders. Don't even get me started on the ludicrous pricing scam of LogTen Pro, what a racket. I use LogBook Pro, works great, and you only have to pay once and you keep it for life.
#13
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Get a professional binder ( a place like logbook solutions) and just use heavy white paper. Like 24-28 pound. Don't be cute with colorful paper or fancy logo thinking your are going impress the group who's interviewing you. Just make it look professional. That's just my opinion, and my logbook helped me get hired
#14
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I've seen both at interviews. Some of the printed ones looked in really bad shape with mismatched binders. Did not look professional at all. Both are acceptable as long as you keep them neat and professional.
#15
There's a time and a place to go cheap. And I submit to you that the interview isn't one of those times.
You drop $500-1000 for a suit and tie, but go cheap on the logbooks. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wanna roll the dice and go in with a cheap-o spiral bound? Be my guest. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
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#16
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Any interview? I'm curious how many people were successful with this approach at Delta, United or American. My guess? None to negative zero. (But seriously, if you used this approach at the Big3 successfully, let me know!)
There's a time and a place to go cheap. And I submit to you that the interview isn't one of those times.
You drop $500-1000 for a suit and tie, but go cheap on the logbooks. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wanna roll the dice and go in with a cheap-o spiral bound? Be my guest. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
There's a time and a place to go cheap. And I submit to you that the interview isn't one of those times.
You drop $500-1000 for a suit and tie, but go cheap on the logbooks. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wanna roll the dice and go in with a cheap-o spiral bound? Be my guest. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
#18
Why?
Simple.
Job applications.
Eventually you'll be filling out many many apps, and no two apps are alike. Every company has their own way of torturing potential applicants when it comes down to breakdown of times; how much time do you have as SIC on Tuesday Nights while flying eastbound on aircraft weighing more than 41,000 but less than 65,000? How much PIC time do you have NOT acting as an Instructor? Etc etc.
Also, I don't know if certain companies still take this approach, but there are plenty of horror stories of otherwise successful candidates getting rejected because the math on the bottom line didn't add up. Sometimes by only a few hours.
In this day and age of smartphone app logbooks, why anyone just starting out wouldn't be using one is beyond me.
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Any interview? I'm curious how many people were successful with this approach at Delta, United or American. My guess? None to negative zero. (But seriously, if you used this approach at the Big3 successfully, let me know!)
There's a time and a place to go cheap. And I submit to you that the interview isn't one of those times.
You drop $500-1000 for a suit and tie, but go cheap on the logbooks. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wanna roll the dice and go in with a cheap-o spiral bound? Be my guest. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
There's a time and a place to go cheap. And I submit to you that the interview isn't one of those times.
You drop $500-1000 for a suit and tie, but go cheap on the logbooks. Makes perfect sense to me.
Wanna roll the dice and go in with a cheap-o spiral bound? Be my guest. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
Bottom line, have something that is neat and easy to read and don't sweat it. They won't see your logbook until you get to the interview and by that point they already want to hire you. As long as you aren't presenting a bunch of cocktail napkins with chicken scratch, you should be fine. Make it legible and logical and be ready to address anything "odd".
#20
I had an excel spreadsheet that summarized all of my flying onto one page. I also had a printout of all my military flying, my old logbook with very lttle GA flying dating back to 1987, and a printout on regular computer/copy paper from Staples with my regional flying (7 pages). Those 7 pages were stapled. I put all of that in a $.99 folder from Wal-Mart and presented it to the fine folks at United Airlines. I did well in the interview and the simulator. I got the job.
Bottom line, have something that is neat and easy to read and don't sweat it. They won't see your logbook until you get to the interview and by that point they already want to hire you. As long as you aren't presenting a bunch of cocktail napkins with chicken scratch, you should be fine. Make it legible and logical and be ready to address anything "odd".
Bottom line, have something that is neat and easy to read and don't sweat it. They won't see your logbook until you get to the interview and by that point they already want to hire you. As long as you aren't presenting a bunch of cocktail napkins with chicken scratch, you should be fine. Make it legible and logical and be ready to address anything "odd".
Having said all that, I also have an electronic logbook to quickly tally up my flying times, but my hand-written logbook is the heirloom that will pass down someday. I have my dad's logbooks (F-89 and F-101 backseat, then F-100 pilot)--priceless!
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