So as far as playing the game, do people put "hours" of volunteer work down, or just where they've done it? Is it worth putting down things from years ago, like college or even high school, if it's significant? What about volunteering at your church? Is that too divisive a subject or not a big deal?

When you've done it nothing wrong saying your time right now is tight


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Yes.
I have done all of the above.
Everything from senior year of high school forward, including teaching Sunday School. They want volunteer work, I'll give 'em volunteer work!

Fair enough, thanks for the reply!

I ask the same question at Indoc. Their simple answer was that "right now" we're hiring Captains. Everyone will be a Captain in a very short time with as many retiring as there are.

Nobody wants a Captain that is centered around their selves worrying only about what effects them. They want someone concerned about those around him/her. Period.

I thought a bit about this. I've had a few bosses in my last 30 yrs of working who have been entirely concerned with only their selves. Not a fun place to work, I have to admit.

Then I thought about the bosses that went out of their way to help those who "worked for them" as if it were the other way around... Servant Leadership.

Does volunteerism show what type of people they are? Does it describe their individual trials and tribulations they have gone through or are going through to get to where they want? Tough questions indeed.

If you think Delta -- or any legacy carrier -- hires pilots solely because they think they're "good sticks" and can make it through training, you're solely mistaken. This isn't a low-budget commuter/ACMI that's only worried about training costs and how few sims someone needs. Being a pilot is only a prt of your job description here. They're looking at the whole package. They're looking at the manager-captain you will be someday. They're are news blurbs/electronic bulletin boards filled with stories about Delta people volunteering in their communities. They take it very seriously. Take it or leave it. If you think it's silly, apply elsewhere.

Right.

Too bad that can't take a measure of who's a "better" CA?

The ones hired in a different era when they didn't care about it? Or those hired after?

I mean, how on earth "back in the day" did they hire all these good people? (sarcasm)

It would be almost as fun as culling the data on those that had few if any sick calls when asked at the interview versus their usage AFTER being hired.

As well as the point I've made many time before. She who's STILL volunteering after being hired, who's STILL paying for and active in OBAP, WAI, NGPA, etc etc etc.

This! Haha!

Only the Regional pilot slave needs to volunteer. We practically "volunteer" at our regional airline anyway, whats another couple days per month of volunteer time? Once youre at your career airline, you dont need to volunteer anymore!

All this time trying to be a good husband and father by spending all my extra time with my family; after reading a few responses on this thread I guess I'm just a selfish prick after all...


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