Competitive civilian mins for the majors
11-08-2014, 05:31 PM
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Competitive civilian mins for the majors
Hi,
Been wondering what the 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies) perceive as competitive mins from recent hiring practice as opposed to the mins they publish.
Assuming no inside recs:
Would a pilot from a Part 135 op flying King Airs, Lears or Citations (exclusively cargo or charter) be competitive in terms of the required turbine time without Part 121 time?
Would the Part 135 Training Capt./Check Airman title hold any weight for these Part 121 positions?
Would Part 121 PIC turboprop-only time from Fedex feeders, Commutair, Penair, Great Lakes or Silver as your only turbine experience give you a shot at those competitive Part 121 major positions?
Does anyone know of any implied new hire HR matrix in terms of age, total time, turbine, PIC(turboprop vs jet), training capt/check airman, volunteer time etc for these Part 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies)?
Been hearing of some majors hiring pilots in fewer numbers above a certain age or avoiding pilots beyond a certain number of hours being perceived as overqualified and not being trainable. Any truth to this rumor?
Is there an alternative civilian way to get to the majors besides going to the regionals?
All opinions welcome...
Been wondering what the 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies) perceive as competitive mins from recent hiring practice as opposed to the mins they publish.
Assuming no inside recs:
Would a pilot from a Part 135 op flying King Airs, Lears or Citations (exclusively cargo or charter) be competitive in terms of the required turbine time without Part 121 time?
Would the Part 135 Training Capt./Check Airman title hold any weight for these Part 121 positions?
Would Part 121 PIC turboprop-only time from Fedex feeders, Commutair, Penair, Great Lakes or Silver as your only turbine experience give you a shot at those competitive Part 121 major positions?
Does anyone know of any implied new hire HR matrix in terms of age, total time, turbine, PIC(turboprop vs jet), training capt/check airman, volunteer time etc for these Part 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies)?
Been hearing of some majors hiring pilots in fewer numbers above a certain age or avoiding pilots beyond a certain number of hours being perceived as overqualified and not being trainable. Any truth to this rumor?
Is there an alternative civilian way to get to the majors besides going to the regionals?
All opinions welcome...
Last edited by CFI 1981; 11-08-2014 at 06:06 PM.
11-08-2014, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI 1981
Hi,
Been wondering what the 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies) perceive as competitive mins from recent hiring practice as opposed to the mins they publish.
Assuming no inside recs:
Would a pilot from a Part 135 op flying King Airs, Lears or Citations (exclusively cargo or charter) be competitive in terms of the required turbine time without Part 121 time?
Would the Part 135 Training Capt./Check Airman title hold any weight for these Part 121 positions?
Would Part 121 PIC turboprop-only time from Fedex feeders, Commutair, Penair, Great Lakes or Silver as your only turbine experience give you a shot at those competitive Part 121 major positions?
Does anyone know of any implied new hire HR matrix in terms of age, total time, turbine, PIC(turboprop vs jet), training capt/check airman, volunteer time etc for these Part 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies)?
Been hearing of some majors hiring pilots in fewer numbers above a certain age or avoiding pilots beyond a certain number of hours being perceived as overqualified and not being trainable. Any truth to this rumor?
Is there an alternative civilian way to get to the majors besides going to the regionals?
Are there any regionals out there that major airlines prefer to hire from (except flows) or any of them that they may seem to avoid?
All opinions welcome...
Been wondering what the 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies) perceive as competitive mins from recent hiring practice as opposed to the mins they publish.
Assuming no inside recs:
Would a pilot from a Part 135 op flying King Airs, Lears or Citations (exclusively cargo or charter) be competitive in terms of the required turbine time without Part 121 time?
Would the Part 135 Training Capt./Check Airman title hold any weight for these Part 121 positions?
Would Part 121 PIC turboprop-only time from Fedex feeders, Commutair, Penair, Great Lakes or Silver as your only turbine experience give you a shot at those competitive Part 121 major positions?
Does anyone know of any implied new hire HR matrix in terms of age, total time, turbine, PIC(turboprop vs jet), training capt/check airman, volunteer time etc for these Part 121 majors(LCCs and Legacies)?
Been hearing of some majors hiring pilots in fewer numbers above a certain age or avoiding pilots beyond a certain number of hours being perceived as overqualified and not being trainable. Any truth to this rumor?
Is there an alternative civilian way to get to the majors besides going to the regionals?
Are there any regionals out there that major airlines prefer to hire from (except flows) or any of them that they may seem to avoid?
All opinions welcome...
Now, go read all the other threads on this topic and come back in two weeks when you are done.
11-08-2014, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI 1981
Thanks Timbo.
I read the threads everyday, just wanted to get the recent individual opinions and experiences of pilots at the majors and those trying to get there recently by alternative means.
I read the threads everyday, just wanted to get the recent individual opinions and experiences of pilots at the majors and those trying to get there recently by alternative means.
11-10-2014, 10:18 AM
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As far as I can see it depends on which company you are applying to. Delta likes a well-rounded pilot with diverse experience, good college records, service and leadership. Delta seems willing to overlook some things that other airlines put a lot of emphasis on (Turbine PIC for example) as long as you show experience and success in other areas.
Southwest needs that turbine PIC and I am unfamiliar with other airline cultures. Do research on each airline you apply to. A "one size fits all" application doesn't work too well in this industry.
Southwest needs that turbine PIC and I am unfamiliar with other airline cultures. Do research on each airline you apply to. A "one size fits all" application doesn't work too well in this industry.
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