Envoy or SkyWest on the crj at ORD
10-16-2016, 11:59 AM
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Envoy or SkyWest on the crj at ORD
I'm looking at both of these airlines since I live near ORD. Anybody have some thoughts on quality of life, reserve times, line structure, etc in the crj at O'Hare with both Envoy and SkyWest? If anyone is willing to email me a bid packet to I could have a first hand look at how the lines are, where the overnights are on the crj, etc, that would be great and helpful. Thanks, I have a wife and 2 little ones so QOL is huge for us. Thanks in advance.
10-16-2016, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Blizzard
Looks like the crj is sticking around for a while, I've been told.
10-16-2016, 01:16 PM
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It appears the 700s will slowly goto PSA in 2017-2018. Envoy will have over 100 ejets over the next few years, and close to 100 145s until 2022-2024ish.
You should pick what is best for you long term. Both are in good positions for long term sustainability. Envoy does appear to be contracting some in ord.
I'd highly recommend taking an airline with flow. I have a few friends who are captains at skywest and can't get a call from the majors (why I have no idea) and can't afford going to a lcc. Tifiw
You should pick what is best for you long term. Both are in good positions for long term sustainability. Envoy does appear to be contracting some in ord.
I'd highly recommend taking an airline with flow. I have a few friends who are captains at skywest and can't get a call from the majors (why I have no idea) and can't afford going to a lcc. Tifiw
10-16-2016, 01:53 PM
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There is a lot of things to take into consideration when choosing a regional. But if quality of life is big for you, you should probably go with Skywest.
Right now, QOL at Envoy is terrible, it's sustainable if you live on base (which is your case) but not great.. More and more people bid reserve because the lines are so bad.. And reserve is not good either. They have awful reserve rules.
I'm not saying it will never change, but the facts right now are what I just said.
On the bright side, Envoy has a flow, and you'd make more money than at Skywest..
Good luck!
Right now, QOL at Envoy is terrible, it's sustainable if you live on base (which is your case) but not great.. More and more people bid reserve because the lines are so bad.. And reserve is not good either. They have awful reserve rules.
I'm not saying it will never change, but the facts right now are what I just said.
On the bright side, Envoy has a flow, and you'd make more money than at Skywest..
Good luck!
10-16-2016, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
It appears the 700s will slowly goto PSA in 2017-2018. Envoy will have over 100 ejets over the next few years, and close to 100 145s until 2022-2024ish.
You should pick what is best for you long term. Both are in good positions for long term sustainability. Envoy does appear to be contracting some in ord.
I'd highly recommend taking an airline with flow. I have a few friends who are captains at skywest and can't get a call from the majors (why I have no idea) and can't afford going to a lcc. Tifiw
You should pick what is best for you long term. Both are in good positions for long term sustainability. Envoy does appear to be contracting some in ord.
I'd highly recommend taking an airline with flow. I have a few friends who are captains at skywest and can't get a call from the majors (why I have no idea) and can't afford going to a lcc. Tifiw
10-16-2016, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Because flows have always worked so well.....
More than likely you are just spouting nonsense you heard on here, same as all the other garbage advice advice that many many many pilots have proven to be incorrect, such as "don't chase an upgrade". By all means though: Be an FO for 8 years and don't have a flow in your back pocket incase no one calls you.
Most of the "institutional" advice seen on here is either badly outdated or was never really correct in the first place and was given by jaded, bitter pilots that were unfortunate victims of timing.
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