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Old 11-29-2016, 10:59 AM
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I received a warning letter almost two years ago as a CFI.

I'm ready to apply to the regionals and I'm wondering how I should deal with reporting it and how it will effect my hiring eligibility.

I received a warning letter almost two years ago as a CFI.

I'm ready to apply to the regionals and I'm wondering how I should deal with reporting it and how it will effect my hiring eligibility.

Anyone have an experience with this?

Originally Posted by fearofpavement
What was the nature of the letter? Telling you to stop doing something? Never heard of a "warning letter".
Was accused of violating an FAR. Warning letter just states what I was accused of and the Administrator did not deem it necessary to take any enforcement action.

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Old 11-29-2016, 11:05 AM
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No experience however you have a pulse. As long as it didn't become an official violation I think you'll be fine. If asked about it, be completely open and honest about it. Turn the negative into a positive and show how it was a learning experience especially if you haven't repeated the mistake since.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:06 AM
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How well can you say "air shuttle"?
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:06 AM
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If you are telling strangers on the internet, why wouldn't you disclose this to your employer. Lets say you don't, and are hired. 6 months later your secret is discovered and you are terminated. How do you think that will play out in the future. Best to be totally up front and let them decide what to do.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:07 AM
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It won't keep you from the regionals. Additionally, check with the FSDO, it may be automatically expunged (like it never happened) after two years.

Good luck.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:28 AM
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What was the nature of the letter? Telling you to stop doing something? Never heard of a "warning letter".
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:31 AM
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fwiw
INFORMATION PROVIDED BY
PRIA, FOIA, and THE PRIVACY ACT
(AFS
-620 PRIA 014) Version 3 /
6- 30-
2014
/ JAR Page 3 of 10
CHAPTER ONE
1- 1. Actions Required To Be Reported By PRIA:
For the purposes of completing requests for information by AFS
-620, the FAA defines
reportable legal actions as: “Summaries of FAA legal enforcement actions ‘resulting in a
finding’ by the Administrator
, of a violation that was ‘not subsequently overturned’.”
“Resulting in a finding” means that the case has been fully adjudicated and closed. In
other words, only fully adjudicated and closed enforcement cases are required to be
, and
in fact, are reported by PRIA
for the 5-
year period preceding the date on the application.
1- 2. Actions NOT Reported By PRIA:
PRIA does NOT provide information concerning accidents or incidents in which the
pilot may have been involved, any type of administrative action such as a warning letter,
as well as
enforcement cases that are still open, pending, cases under appeal, or reopened,
when reporting on a pilot’s performance record. FAA’s Office of Chief Council has
determined that doing so could be unfair to the pilot because:
1.
These reports may or may not involve pilot error.
2.
Pilots identified in accident and incident reports do not receive the same due
process protections enjoyed by legal enforcement actions; and
3.
Open cases that have not been fully reviewed by FAA, NTSB, or possibly by a
U.S. Court of Appeals, could eventually be drop
ped or dismissed by the court.
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INFORMATION PROVIDED BY
PRIA, FOIA, and THE PRIVACY ACT
(AFS
-620 PRIA 014) Version 3 /
6- 30-
2014
/ JAR Page 3 of 10
CHAPTER ONE
1- 1. Actions Required To Be Reported By PRIA:
For the purposes of completing requests for information by AFS
-620, the FAA defines
reportable legal actions as: “Summaries of FAA legal enforcement actions ‘resulting in a
finding’ by the Administrator
, of a violation that was ‘not subsequently overturned’.”
“Resulting in a finding” means that the case has been fully adjudicated and closed. In
other words, only fully adjudicated and closed enforcement cases are required to be
, and
in fact, are reported by PRIA
for the 5-
year period preceding the date on the application.
1- 2. Actions NOT Reported By PRIA:
PRIA does NOT provide information concerning accidents or incidents in which the
pilot may have been involved, any type of administrative action such as a warning letter,
as well as
enforcement cases that are still open, pending, cases under appeal, or reopened,
when reporting on a pilot’s performance record. FAA’s Office of Chief Council has
determined that doing so could be unfair to the pilot because:
1.
These reports may or may not involve pilot error.
2.
Pilots identified in accident and incident reports do not receive the same due
process protections enjoyed by legal enforcement actions; and
3.
Open cases that have not been fully reviewed by FAA, NTSB, or possibly by a
U.S. Court of Appeals, could eventually be drop
ped or dismissed by the court.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:44 AM
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Be honest and be prepared to tell what you learned from it. Don't play the blame game.

FWIW, I had an actual violation as a CFI, stupid mistake but completely guilty. Filed an ASAR/NASA form. Received the "violation but no action, no suspension" letter. Disclosed it, talked about it, and got hired. Good Luck.
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Old 11-29-2016, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wannaflyjets
I received a warning letter almost two years ago as a CFI.

I'm ready to apply to the regionals and I'm wondering how I should deal with reporting it and how it will effect my hiring eligibility.

Anyone have an experience with this?
You can tell them if you feel obligated, but you do not have to disclose warning letters,unless specifically asked "have you ever received a warning letter from the faa?"
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