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Old 12-20-2016 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Scraggly Heron
When you say you have no flight experience, does that mean you have no time at all at the controls of an airplane? I'd recommend at least getting your PPL before fully committing.

There's no guarantee that you fly for a legacy making $25k per month at the end of your career. I have friends who spent years at the regionals, it tends to be a rough life. (I love my job as a pilot in the defense industry, BTW.)

If you don't absolutely love flying it's not a path I'd recommend--the reward is getting to fly airplanes, not necessarily having a great paycheck.
Correct, I have zero time at the controls of a real airplane. Great idea about getting my PPL before committing!

I figured that the $25k and $30k per month at a legacy are for pilots who have been there for millions of years and fly wide bodies. What do you mean by your being a pilot in the defense industry? Are you military, or a civilian test pilot for DOD? I am just curious.

You're right, you shouldn't fly if you don't absolutely love flying. Thanks for your input Scraggly Heron!
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Old 12-20-2016 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
If you can do atp locally, and not have to pay housing costs, I'd jump on it.
The closest are Richmond and Trenton, and they are 140 and 155 miles away, so I am sure that I would have to get housing there.
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Old 12-20-2016 | 04:32 PM
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If you can fly locally I'd recommend that. Network and find out if the local place has decent instructors and management stability.

As others have mentioned you need to fly. You don't have to be Chuck Yeager and as excited as a newly wed in the beginning, but you have to realize that you like it AND you develop. Most do, some can't.
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Old 12-20-2016 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
If you can fly locally I'd recommend that. Network and find out if the local place has decent instructors and management stability.



As others have mentioned you need to fly. You don't have to be Chuck Yeager and as excited as a newly wed in the beginning, but you have to realize that you like it AND you develop. Most do, some can't.


Well said, thanks! I'm almost certain I'd enjoy it?, but I agree that I need to try it first.
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Old 12-21-2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Correct, I have zero time at the controls of a real airplane. Great idea about getting my PPL before committing!

I figured that the $25k and $30k per month at a legacy are for pilots who have been there for millions of years and fly wide bodies. What do you mean by your being a pilot in the defense industry? Are you military, or a civilian test pilot for DOD? I am just curious.

You're right, you shouldn't fly if you don't absolutely love flying. Thanks for your input Scraggly Heron!
It's entirely possible for you to end up as a wide body captain at one of the legacies, there's just no guaranteed path to get there.

I'm a former military pilot working for Lockheed--most defense industry pilots are former military or former law enforcement.
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Old 12-21-2016 | 09:18 AM
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Well said, thanks! I'm almost certain I'd enjoy it?, but I agree that I need to try it first.
There's a huge difference once it becomes a career. I used to collect aviation memorabilia, go to air shows, enjoy getting my Sporty's airplane catalogue... Now all of that makes me feel ill. The industry has a way of crushing your excitement and love of flying. Does this happen to everyone? No, but it happens to a surprising amount of people, darn near a majority in my opinion. Should I just quit? Nah. I have too much invested, and I still really do enjoy the actual job most of time.

Not trying to sound depressing at all, just adding a dash of reality. My whole life, airline pilot was the job that I wanted. When I got there... well, it turned out to be nothing like I had expected to say the least. YMMV.

Again, flying airplanes for a living is still pretty cool, though! It just comes with a LOT of baggage (pun intended).
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Old 12-22-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scraggly Heron
It's entirely possible for you to end up as a wide body captain at one of the legacies, there's just no guaranteed path to get there.

I'm a former military pilot working for Lockheed--most defense industry pilots are former military or former law enforcement.


One can only hope Scraggly Heron!

That sounds like a fun job! I saw you flew C-130s. Where at? I have numerous family members who've flown C-130s, and it's probably my favorite aircraft of all time.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
There's a huge difference once it becomes a career. I used to collect aviation memorabilia, go to air shows, enjoy getting my Sporty's airplane catalogue... Now all of that makes me feel ill. The industry has a way of crushing your excitement and love of flying. Does this happen to everyone? No, but it happens to a surprising amount of people, darn near a majority in my opinion. Should I just quit? Nah. I have too much invested, and I still really do enjoy the actual job most of time.



Not trying to sound depressing at all, just adding a dash of reality. My whole life, airline pilot was the job that I wanted. When I got there... well, it turned out to be nothing like I had expected to say the least. YMMV.



Again, flying airplanes for a living is still pretty cool, though! It just comes with a LOT of baggage (pun intended).


That's very true! And thank you for your "dash of reality," PotatoChip. Hopefully I make it there.
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Old 12-23-2016 | 05:25 AM
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There are other ways to get to the 1500 hours that you need to qualify for the ATP rating and the regional airlines.
The most efficient (time and $$) is to buy an inexpensive IFR airplane, like a Cessna 150, with a couple partners and fly the ** out of it. But it needs money outlay since you can't get a loan for it.
If you need more details on what I mean - PM me
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Old 12-23-2016 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MidLife
There are other ways to get to the 1500 hours that you need to qualify for the ATP rating and the regional airlines.

The most efficient (time and $$) is to buy an inexpensive IFR airplane, like a Cessna 150, with a couple partners and fly the ** out of it. But it needs money outlay since you can't get a loan for it.

If you need more details on what I mean - PM me


PM incoming, thank you MidLife!
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