Originally Posted by fr8ghtdawg (Post 2453928)

Then tell me what you are paid additionally for a 1/7 at Atlas? Trip rig does not guarantee that you are paid anything additional for that day. Its contingent on time spent outside base. How much do Atlas pilots make while sitting in base while away from home? How much are you paid for deadhead? what credits do you receive for reserve duty? Your counterparts at Kalitta and ABX are paid for these. (No contract is perfect) I personally think that you should be compensated for reserve credit, deadhead, trip rig, and loss of trip due to training. I think it would have been tough negotiating trip rig without giving those things up. If the K4 guys retain what they have and then get a rig in the next contract, they will have the best of both worlds. If they would have given up on reserve credit it would have been an impossible task to get it back. The K4 contract in whole is far superior to ANY contract currently in 1224, but still has vast room for improvement like all 1224 current contracts. Hopefully Atlas raises the bar in a few years when they get a new contract and Kalitta can raise the bar to the standard your negotiators set.

Originally Posted by CallmeJB (Post 2453800)

I apologize. I support my brothers and sisters at K4 and I'm glad you made such big gains in your CBA. It was a long fight and you won.

I know the 1 in 7 isn't something you chose, it's something you ended up with. You made massive gains in your contract, and this isn't one of them. That's okay.

But don't be afraid to call a spade a spade. You (Lockheed) obviously aren't. 1 in 7s aren't paid days. They are a kick in the pants is what they are. Something that you will fix next time, no doubt.

But to defend that clause, to say that those are paid, that's just wrong. And arguably spreading management propaganda.