FDX Filling Open Trips
03-24-2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cvilltn
Of the trips I knocked out with my April vacation, the first three have already been filled by scheds with an IOE student. A30 F/O prg. 124/3rd, 313/4th, 120/5th.
When I read the contract 5 months ago I must have missed something. Prior to this contract, an open trip could not be filled for training. It would first have to be assigned to somebody (RES?) and then that person bumped for training.
Can any of you contract Guru's quote the section where we gave that back?
When I read the contract 5 months ago I must have missed something. Prior to this contract, an open trip could not be filled for training. It would first have to be assigned to somebody (RES?) and then that person bumped for training.
Can any of you contract Guru's quote the section where we gave that back?
03-29-2007, 05:09 AM
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I'm not sure anything has changed. There is a Boeing trip on Apr 3rd with the right seat open and an FO IOE stud scheduled in the jumpseat. Some lucky FO will pick that trip up tonight and then get bumped from it the night before. The only downside is the stud gets sick or delayed and you have to fly the trip, which in this case is ok because it is a pretty easy trip.
Not a bad gig if you can get it.
FJ
Not a bad gig if you can get it.
FJ
03-29-2007, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Falconjet
I'm not sure anything has changed. There is a Boeing trip on Apr 3rd with the right seat open and an FO IOE stud scheduled in the jumpseat. Some lucky FO will pick that trip up tonight and then get bumped from it the night before. The only downside is the stud gets sick or delayed and you have to fly the trip, which in this case is ok because it is a pretty easy trip.
Not a bad gig if you can get it.
FJ
Not a bad gig if you can get it.
FJ
That's exactly why I started the thread. The scenario you mentioned is what I have been used to over the years. i.e., the seat shows open for a line pilot to pick up, although the stud is shown on the j/s and in the notes it explains the stud has IOE. The trips I refered to never made it to open time and if you look them up in VIPS it will list the stud in the F/O seat, not on the j/s. Still says in the notes that he has IOE.
I wonder why it's different by aircraft types? Someone earlier quoted the contract section with new language, but I'm still confused.
03-29-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cvilltn
Of the trips I knocked out with my April vacation, the first three have already been filled by scheds with an IOE student. A30 F/O prg. 124/3rd, 313/4th, 120/5th.
When I read the contract 5 months ago I must have missed something. Prior to this contract, an open trip could not be filled for training. It would first have to be assigned to somebody (RES?) and then that person bumped for training.
Can any of you contract Guru's quote the section where we gave that back?
When I read the contract 5 months ago I must have missed something. Prior to this contract, an open trip could not be filled for training. It would first have to be assigned to somebody (RES?) and then that person bumped for training.
Can any of you contract Guru's quote the section where we gave that back?
BAD NEWS: I've got a RSV trip assignment for you.
GOOD NEWS: You've been bumped off that trip by a Check Airman.
So ... Seems like the same old policy to me?
Regards,
Mark
03-29-2007, 12:07 PM
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LCA's that bid regular lines will have the F/O line holder bumped when an IOE student is assigned their bid trip. Unless, the student is finishing up sims at the end of one month. And can be scheduled with the LCA, from open time, before the VTO's are built. That would only be at the beginning of the next month. Like in your case.
Bottom line: you used your vacation on trips that you would have been bumped off of, anyway. I hate when that happens.
Make sense?
That's my best guess.
Bottom line: you used your vacation on trips that you would have been bumped off of, anyway. I hate when that happens.
Make sense?
That's my best guess.
Last edited by Busboy; 03-29-2007 at 12:15 PM.
03-30-2007, 03:24 PM
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[QUOTEBottom line: you used your vacation on trips that you would have been bumped off of, anyway. I hate when that happens.QUOTE]
So the bigger question is: Why did you hog up an LCA when you were going to waste it with vacation? If you hadn't dropped the trips for vac, you would have been bumped, but since you did drop them, the company got off light without having to pay for that seat for training.
So the bigger question is: Why did you hog up an LCA when you were going to waste it with vacation? If you hadn't dropped the trips for vac, you would have been bumped, but since you did drop them, the company got off light without having to pay for that seat for training.
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