Can't speak on MD but 747 is nice. Literally 90% Asia. For everyone its 17 on regardless but I have averaged 10 - 14 days a month and sometimes no flying during slow season. Everyone here is a pleasure to work with from scheduling to the pilot group. The flying is pretty relaxed and usually have a couple days off once you land. Generally speaking it was an upgrade from passenger flying for me.

When I interviewed, the gouge was that the 747 is just about a paid vacation whereas the MD is a slave galley. This was a couple of years ago, may have changed.

Western Global Airlines is having another pilot job fair:

May 29th - May 31st from 0800-1700 daily
Hilton Garden Inn
MIA Airport West
3550 NW 74th Ave.
Miami, FL 33122

Hi all, new to the forums. I have upcoming training on the MD-11; understanding it's non AQP, I was wondering about training and washout rates. I imagine there are no second chances on a bust in a maneuver?

Completely uninformed and offbase. What a ridiculous thing to say.

Slaves get fed.

No second chances and no AQP.

Don't sweat it, just have a good attitude and remember that there is no substitute for studying and working with your partner. I've been detached from initial and the school house for awhile so I can't give you any recent numbers.

But when I went through, of the three classes I met (one class ahead and behind also), only 3 really washed out. Two quit on their own when they saw the writing. The others barely got through the oral and non-motion sims and busted the ride, the company didn't give them a second chance. Three others had also quit in indoc and sim for greener pastures. All told that's about 36 new hires in 3 months, 3 washed out, 3 probably could have passed but decided it wasn't for them.

Again the training is tough, but def not crazy. Study on your own, study in groups and chair fly with your sim partner. Check your ego at the door and listen. Take it one day at a time, they won't send you for the ride if you aren't ready. They will work with you, we have a great training dept. Most guys feel over prepared. (This is all MD11)

17% doesnt sound too awful. I have been reading the MD-11 is an animal when battling wind gusts. Regardless, no second chances is harsh, but I guess rightly so.

The MD11 does not tolerate poor handling, but is neither difficult nor an "animal." It's easy to land, straight forward, flies about like anything else, and has a narrower tolerance range but is not difficult nor demanding. Gusting conditions are nearly a non-issue thanks to the autothrottles; keep it on profile, fly it to the runway and land it like anything else.

Whatever you've heard about no second chances is completely untrue.

how long have you worked at Western Global?

WGA busts captains to first officer and them moves them back to captain. Second chances up the ying yang. Additional sim time is given in training. Instructors are known to take time on their own dime to provide additional tutoring, and there's no shortage of line pilots who will bend over backward to help. If someone doesn't make it at WGA, it's entirely their own doing, and certainly not the result of a strict company that does not give a "second chance." If you can't do the maneuver at all, that's one thing. If you make a mistake, nobody is going to end your career over it. If you have an issue during training and it's trainable, then life goes on, so will you, and you'll repeat it.

If you can't make it at WGA, then it's not likely you'll make it anywhere. Whether a candidate makes it there is largely a matter of how much effort the candidate puts into it; they're not giving anything away, but they're absolutely not a place of zero second chance.

If you're asking about busting an interview ride and coming back again, I have no idea, but if you're talking about the culture there and second chances in training, on the line, and in recurrent, and if someone has told you it's not a place where personnel will work with you, then you've been told a lie.