This illustrates my last sentence, the compensation is close at min guarantee.

89K to 85k, Atlas wins, in a black and white world. But you can’t ignore the other items. The $30K retention bonus at 3 years is real and not going away. Peak season bonuses are high likely, (4 out of the last 5 years since company has been full up), but not guaranteed. Day 18 pays a first year pilot $840. If you are scheduled to travel one minute into day 18, you get $840 for that travel day.. The ESOP has value, but that’s up to individuals to decide.

That comparison only works for those going into the 74. Your 76 and 73 guys end up at 88*64 = 5632 *12 =67584

777 is better at 101*64= 6464 *12 =77564. I know atlas is hiring into the 74 quite a bit but WGA pay parity is the same on both fleets. No questioning what your salary is on what you’re interviewing and hired into.

f you want to toss in bonuses and soft pay, Atlas still wins by a long shot…. Atlas premium pay is already beats WGA. Ok you want to toss in extension pay, Atlas pays guys 12 hours once extended into Day 18….. (1404 on first year)….. That’s per day extended…. I haven’t throw in Article 33 flying yet either. Still want to go down that road?

As a poster alluded to earlier, if you want to compare compensation, look at what is paid at min guarantee.

Ok, go ahead and compare your wide body fleet to to Atlas 76 and 73 pay comparison if you need to feel better about WGA compensation. I will be first to admit that your wide body fleet pays better than Atlas 76 and 73 fleet.

You want to talk about other items? Just flew with an FO, been here 8 months. This last month he credited 211 hours. 211*$117=$24687. Just under a week of Open time + COVID. Neither are guaranteed indefinitely but the money is out there for those that seek it for right now.

That may be the case, but a comparison of wide body to narrow body is irrelevant. WGA only operates wide body, so if you want to make a valid comparison, then compare widebody aircraft.

That is not true.

Day 1-17 at WGA pays the daily rate of 382, now 419 with the 10% pay rase. Thus, on day 17 a first year first officer earns 419 for the day.

Day eighteen pays the same as day 17. On day 18, a WGA first officer earns 419 for the day, not the 840 that you suggest.

Days 19 and 20 pay 1.5 times the daily rate. Day 19 thus pays 628, still less than the 840 that you suggest.

You're referring to 2.0 times the daily rate, which begins on day 21. In order to make 840 (838, actually), a first year first officer would need to be on his 21st day.

Those are not necessarily simply consecutive days. Those are days in a calendar month. A first officer who has been out for 20 days, ending on the 31st of January, does not get 21 day pay on the 1st of February. He starts a new 17 days. If he goes home on the 17th, thus having been out 37 days consecutively, he still does not get that 838 dollars.

Well, who doesn't love watching a bunch of airline pilots engaged in a lively game of "Mine is bigger than yours!"

LOL :D

I made $89k first year on the 73. Btw

That would be ego and immaturity, and juvenile behavior.

The discussion regards those who might make a choice between one or the other, and the relative benefits and opportunity costs of such a decision.

Numbers are numbers, regardless of whether one has a stake in the particular game, or not. I don't work for either company, and It's absolutely not an issue of "mine is bigger than yours." Calling out wrong information is not a measurement of anatomy, figurative or literal, and your insinuation is incorrect.

Come on man, Per diem is not compensation.