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Pay scale update
 

Hello, anyone have an updated pay scale for Western Global. I believe the one listed on APC is outdated as I understand 1st year
FO hourly pay is $421 not $382. Thanks.

I don’t have the rates but you meant to say daily, and not hourly rates, correct? A $421 hourly rate would make Western Global a top choice for most pilots..

And put WGA out of business lol….

No, it wouldn't.

You telling me if a flying job that paid 421 per hour evening with a 64 MMG that pays a annual 300K wouldn’t be highly sought after. I think it would lol. But the airline itself won’t be in business for long.

You missed the point entirely, didn't you?

Do you lurk on other companies’ threads or is it your objective to cast negativity solely on Western Global?

I visit what threads I choose to visit, and you don't see me lurking. You see me posting. Do you not understand the difference, or does that need to be explained to you as well?

What is it that you think has been said that is "cast negatively" on Western Global, and what ground do you have for the assumption that I focus "solely" on Western Global?

The world does not revolve around you, despite whatever you may think. Nor do I.

A high wage is not the sole motivating factor for all pilots, nor for "most pilots." The statement was made that "A $421 hourly rate would make Western Global a top choice for most pilots." I quoted the poster who said it and responded to that poster and to that quote. I did not respond to you, as you were not the poster. Apparently the response troubles you all the same, and you find it an attack on Western Global, so I will respond to you.

Increasing the wage to 421 an hour would not make Western Global a top choice for most pilots for numerous reasons, from size and scope of the operation, to the limited size of the fleet, to career aspirations, to the short history of the company, to the maintenance, to the incoming union and impending negotiations, to the carrot dangling, to the historical training washout rate, to the negative close FAA oversight due to gross navigational errors, maintenance issues, etc. A 421 dollar an hour wage is not the sole motivating factor and while the wage itself might represent a high mark on an hourly rate, one has considerably more to take into account than the raw wage. Even given your recent 10% pay increase, which equated to a three-year step-up in pay across the board, it hasn't stemmed attrition as captains and first officers jump ship. Those jumping ship aren't doing so strictly for wage, but for a plethora of reasons, much of which has do do with career path, retirement, size of operation, upward mobility, diversity in operations, job satisfaction, long term planning, and so forth. WGA's historical dangling of the proverbial carrot, offering bonuses and whittling them down to nothing after years of hollow incentive, brief covid incentives that vanished, gobbling up sixty million plus dollars in covid money and paying peanuts while experiencing a 900% increase in profit, and so on, hasn't left a good taste in the mouths of many, including those observing the show. Ask how few pilots are on your rolls who haven't experienced significant maintenance issues in the past year, two years, three years. Ask how many feel at risk of certificate action, or how many feel afraid of filing an ASAP report, due to historical responses, to say nothing of shots across the bow by firing an experienced captain for legitimately carrying a UPS jumpseater on a UPS flight. We could go on all day, and still not scratch the surface, as to why most pilot still wouldn't flock to WGA with an increased wage of 421 an hour, but it's ridiculous to assert that most pilots would go to WGA for that wage. Some might, based on the wage, but most? Hardly. The day you see pilots resigning their seniority at legacy carriers in favor of Western Global Airlines, then you can make such claims without appearing the complete fool. Until then, it's hot digestive wind and little else.

If a discussion of WGA feels negative to you, then perhaps you should consider fixing those issues, such that the negatives do not exist.

You are a cheerleader for the airline, enough so that if you're not management masquerading as a pilot, surely you live in danger of diabetes from the excess sugar and cool-aid you ingest from your own online praise. You may be the company's greatest salesman, at a fevered, religious pitch.

Those who might enquire regarding open vacancies, who are professional enough to do their own homework, may not be nearly so fevered, nor zealous in their quest, as you. You may wish to keep this in mind, as this discussion on an open forum may not lead where you hope.

It's rare, but you totally missed the point.

For 300k first year min guarantee, yes, there will be a line outside wanting to come in.
That's what, 600k, for senior captains, min guarantee.

Yes, you would have pilots from Delta lining up.

The point was not how Neff runs the business, it was that the pay rate is daily, not hourly.