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#844
In a land of unicorns
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#845
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#846
Disinterested Third Party
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Likewise, stop beginning every sentence with "so." Or calling everyone "dude." Or inserting "like" as every fifth word. Or meowing on the god damn radio. Or saying "with you." The controller knows we're "with him," because we just spoke to him. "Got him in TCAS" doesn't tell the controller squat. It's not a fish finder. We're not taking the runway. It's staying where it always was. We don't need to tell the controller that we're "checking in." I suspect he's got that figured out. See 'with you.' We do not need guard police. I actually heard someone with emergency traffic recently, who was quickly cut off by nearlky half a dozen gravely drawlers saying "you're on guard." I suspect that the guy with emergency traffic on guard, knew he was on guard.
Any inbound traffic please advise (just us guys with no radios. Don't mind us).
Any inbound traffic please advise (just us guys with no radios. Don't mind us).
#847
I will concede my own part in using extra words in speaking to ATC, even in foreign locations. We are a product of our training and our culture. I leaned to speak “pilot speak” like most, from my instructors of the day, who would have themselves learned from others like them. ATC hasn’t always been the best guide/teacher of correct ICAO speak. We need to do better and it is discussions like this that will help improve it.
At least you don’t hear, “10-4” on the radio. That is long gone (good buddy 😉 )
At least you don’t hear, “10-4” on the radio. That is long gone (good buddy 😉 )
#848
Disinterested Third Party
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The aircraft I flew for my first job after high school had no aircraft radios; we used CB radios. Ag airplanes, we didn't have much use for aircraft radios. Each airplane had a CB radio to call the company, or each other, but those weren't used much, either. Later, 10 codes were something we used for police radio, and I had a habit of reverting to aircraft radio language (phonetic alphabet, etc). I still say 10-4, once in a while. Not internationally, though. Or intentionally.
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