Trump tweets against Amazon
03-31-2018, 01:37 PM
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Trump tweets against Amazon
Not a political discourse here. From a purely business perspective I’m inclined to believe that this attention will just make them move faster on their nation wide delivery service. I would like to think this is a good thing for the ACMI world, though not sure how it will affect the pilot group.
Anyone think this will be a race to the bottom to secure contracts or a rising tide lifts all boats sort of situation?
Anyone think this will be a race to the bottom to secure contracts or a rising tide lifts all boats sort of situation?
03-31-2018, 06:43 PM
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No effect whatsoever
Amazon’s longterm plan is to mimic the DHL model. Work or not, thats where they are heading. It works with Amazon’s current corp culture of subbing out services as well. Dont hate the messenger, DHL has thoroughly sold them into the idea.
Nothing will change in CVG except added volume. Possibly another carrier to come in. Everyone on here misreads the industry. Yes ACMI pay will come up but nowhere near mainline/legacy. Traditionally these have always been first - second jobs on the way up the career path. In the coming 36-72mo this will be supported even more by the truly historic hiring mainline/legacy wish to obtain. You will see new pilots almost work for free to get the LB/resume fattened up. Its history folks its simply how it works.
Amazon’s longterm plan is to mimic the DHL model. Work or not, thats where they are heading. It works with Amazon’s current corp culture of subbing out services as well. Dont hate the messenger, DHL has thoroughly sold them into the idea.
Nothing will change in CVG except added volume. Possibly another carrier to come in. Everyone on here misreads the industry. Yes ACMI pay will come up but nowhere near mainline/legacy. Traditionally these have always been first - second jobs on the way up the career path. In the coming 36-72mo this will be supported even more by the truly historic hiring mainline/legacy wish to obtain. You will see new pilots almost work for free to get the LB/resume fattened up. Its history folks its simply how it works.
03-31-2018, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WingOffLight
You will see new pilots almost work for free to get the LB/resume fattened up. Its history folks its simply how it works.
Work for free? Those days are long gone.
03-31-2018, 09:55 PM
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The regionals have done all of us a great favor by convincing young people to do other careers. It will take a long history of high pilot pay and good work rules to convince mainstream to want to do this. Horrible customer service and deteriorating airline/pax relationships also work in our favor to deter young people from wanting to do this. Supply dwindles, demand goes up.
04-01-2018, 10:21 AM
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What's crazy to me is how all this delivery exists when you already have a mail carrier going to each address every week day and Saturdays. In what sane world do you drive three more trucks to a subset of those same addresses?
And we are hearing now from Trump and republicans that even though the carrier is ALREADY going to each door EVERY weekday and saturdays it's not cost effective for USPS to deliver amazon packages. Instead my mail is filled 80% with junk mail which pays a 16 cents a piece? I leave it to these business wizards that this makes any kind of sense, but I don't get it at all.
Why not have amazon deliver to local postal center, and throw the packages onto the USPS trucks there that hit every address every day for smaller / lower value items. You get the Amazon backend logistics with the low cost of a delivery route that stops at every house ALREADY. If Trump is right and the USPS can't make money on more real volume (not junk mail) on a network that goes to every house already then something is seriously wrong at USPS.
And we are hearing now from Trump and republicans that even though the carrier is ALREADY going to each door EVERY weekday and saturdays it's not cost effective for USPS to deliver amazon packages. Instead my mail is filled 80% with junk mail which pays a 16 cents a piece? I leave it to these business wizards that this makes any kind of sense, but I don't get it at all.
Why not have amazon deliver to local postal center, and throw the packages onto the USPS trucks there that hit every address every day for smaller / lower value items. You get the Amazon backend logistics with the low cost of a delivery route that stops at every house ALREADY. If Trump is right and the USPS can't make money on more real volume (not junk mail) on a network that goes to every house already then something is seriously wrong at USPS.
04-01-2018, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dynap09
What's crazy to me is how all this delivery exists when you already have a mail carrier going to each address every week day and Saturdays. In what sane world do you drive three more trucks to a subset of those same addresses?
And we are hearing now from Trump and republicans that even though the carrier is ALREADY going to each door EVERY weekday and saturdays it's not cost effective for USPS to deliver amazon packages. Instead my mail is filled 80% with junk mail which pays a 16 cents a piece? I leave it to these business wizards that this makes any kind of sense, but I don't get it at all.
Why not have amazon deliver to local postal center, and throw the packages onto the USPS trucks there that hit every address every day for smaller / lower value items. You get the Amazon backend logistics with the low cost of a delivery route that stops at every house ALREADY. If Trump is right and the USPS can't make money on more real volume (not junk mail) on a network that goes to every house already then something is seriously wrong at USPS.
And we are hearing now from Trump and republicans that even though the carrier is ALREADY going to each door EVERY weekday and saturdays it's not cost effective for USPS to deliver amazon packages. Instead my mail is filled 80% with junk mail which pays a 16 cents a piece? I leave it to these business wizards that this makes any kind of sense, but I don't get it at all.
Why not have amazon deliver to local postal center, and throw the packages onto the USPS trucks there that hit every address every day for smaller / lower value items. You get the Amazon backend logistics with the low cost of a delivery route that stops at every house ALREADY. If Trump is right and the USPS can't make money on more real volume (not junk mail) on a network that goes to every house already then something is seriously wrong at USPS.
04-01-2018, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KYTBRD
FDX has a postal contract until 2024. So isn’t amazon still shipping via FDX while trying to distance itself from UPS/FDX? MDs fly lots of postal service on the weekends.
its that simple.
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