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atpcliff 07-17-2018 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2637120)
Yep, the economy will instantly crater if 200 pilots go on strike.

But, someone in the 0.1% would lose some money if you went on strike...probably not happening with the anti-labor governments we have been getting.

Hopefully, we can change that, and get it back to where we used to be. In around 1938ish, we had the highest percentage of workers in unions, and the ratio between CEO pay and line worker pay was the lowest it has ever been.

motorclutch 07-17-2018 09:42 PM

We don’t have to go on strike to shut it down. Our scheduling director is doing fine on his own. This is the biggest cluster f&&& created by third tier failed managers who never have been successful. Crew bus driver = crew scheduler = COO = Pres = Randy’s Boy!

johnny150 07-18-2018 11:05 AM

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Kougarok 07-18-2018 11:32 AM

I am looking for a contract with the following items-
Industry leading pay.
Full retro.
QOL
SCOPE
15% DB

If Soaper doesn’t give us this I am willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with him and hand him the matches while he pours the gas on.(Figuratively of course.)

tiredofjrm 07-18-2018 11:44 AM

I second that.

sky jet 07-18-2018 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2637508)
I am looking for a contract with the following items-
Industry leading pay.
Full retro.
QOL
SCOPE
15% DB

If Soaper doesn’t give us this I am willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with him and hand him the matches while he pours the gas on.(Figuratively of course.)

Do you mean ACMI leading pay or INDUSTRY leading pay? Since ACMI carriers do not control their own product (freight) I would say your chances of getting industry leading pay higher than Brown or Purple is almost zero. If the former, I wish you well, all of us need to continue to raise the bar to get us nearer to the industry standard. If the later, you might want to invest in a nice lighter.

Kougarok 07-18-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by sky jet (Post 2637519)
Do you mean ACMI leading pay or INDUSTRY leading pay? Since ACMI carriers do not control their own product (freight) I would say your chances of getting industry leading pay higher than Brown or Purple is almost zero. If the former, I wish you well, all of us need to continue to raise the bar to get us nearer to the industry standard. If the later, you might want to invest in a nice lighter.

Too be clear I am thinking Kallita+

No Land 3 07-18-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2637542)
Too be clear I am thinking Kallita+

Everyones new contract has been Kalitta-, hope you succeed.

johnny150 07-18-2018 12:56 PM

It would also be nice if ABX would move into the 21st century regarding scheduling and IT, to bid for your schedule one has to fill out a sheet of paper, take a photo of it and email it to the company... If someone wants to look at there schedule they have to log on to a Remote Desktop which takes no less the 2 min only to find an antiquated Windows 98 style interface. I have seen 135 operations with a more streamlined system of scheduling.


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atpcliff 07-18-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by sky jet (Post 2637519)
Do you mean ACMI leading pay or INDUSTRY leading pay? Since ACMI carriers do not control their own product (freight) I would say your chances of getting industry leading pay higher than Brown or Purple is almost zero. If the former, I wish you well, all of us need to continue to raise the bar to get us nearer to the industry standard. If the later, you might want to invest in a nice lighter.

With the current Pilot Shortage situation ABX, and everyone else, are competing with DAL/FedEx/China/3M for pilots. It's all one big pool of pilots, worldwide. If your contract isn't industry standard, it will be VERY difficult to recruit anyone.


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