ATI pilot fly on the cheap. ATSG will surely dump the DHL contract at ABX air.

The ATI cost just surpassed ABX’s when home basing is factored in. Next year ATI will be more expensive even without considering home basing. ABX is next to the lowest paid at the DHL ramp in CVG. Only one step above Atlas.

They can't fly 767s domestic....

But K4 can and they are slowly taking abx routes.

That was in response to you saying ATI is flying cheap and DHL could dump ABX. Is that not the whole point of the discussions on all these forum boards we have been having for months since ATI and K4 signed such weak contracts? The fact is that DHL could "dump" anybody at anytime and have.

If you have been paying attention to how DHL works ....this is not new. ABX started in 09 with 24 cites. As new players arrived they moved cites to each airline. Keeps everyone guessing. Right now Kallita is the favorite...afforable cheap contract..pilots with a hugh we can do no wrong smiles and acquiring new aircraft. Sounds like Atlas a few years back. Keeps everyone in line....it all goes around. ABX has moved into Atlas cites....Atlas has moved into ABX cites....as the beacon turns.

Thing about some other AMCI carriers.....is that they have aggressive sales departments and have a deep portfolio with other customers waiting in line for when lift opens up. DHL is part of the equation. What happens to ABX when they lose DHL?

They push the MRO and Aircraft Leasing and Post Office sorting facilities and park more airplanes.

Loosing 2 more cities
 

ABX VP of Flight ops just emailed out that we are loosing JFK on Oct 27, 2108, which will be used as a spare until Jan 1, 2019 at which point that one along with EWR will be given back to ABX from DHL.

It's now approaching 1000 days with no new CBA. It's also approaching 600 days with David Soaper as our president.
It seems he has his agenda which appears to be supported by Joe Hete the CEO.

We did however have an upgrade proffer which the Director of Flight Ops snatched up with his near 28 years of seniority.

I don't expect any more classes.... unless it's somewhere else

It's all not worth worrying about...the decision has most likely been made. I do not ever see a new contract...cheaper to just stretch this pay rate out and wind it down intentionally. Just enjoy the ride while you update your resume and take the JRM and REA pay. It's always easier to find a job while you have one. ABX has not been a career destination for quite awhile now. Just a stepping stone....the most junior will go to ATI while waiting for a descent airline at current seniority ATI pay with the differance paid by ATSG.