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07-18-2018 | 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BoomerSooner

And all of the ACMI children living within the DHL orphanage ran down to the square with their gruel pales to see the shiny new 777's.

That's funny..."Please Sir...can I have some more?"

My guess is that thes jets will go under CMI contracts to whomevr or all go to Aerologic, the German JV DHL have with Lufthansa, or a combination there of. I don't see a one for one replacement of the 747 coming. I'm also going to guess that 5Why want to bid for a portion hence the attempt to stabilize the ship at Southern and the rush to make a press release to the market about a deal the lawyers ain't read yet.

07-18-2018 | 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog

DHL is not new to buying aircraft....they bought and own quite a few new 767s a few yrs back plus 4 ABX 767s.....

Plus the 737-400s

07-19-2018 | 07:44 PM

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LOL at the people on this thread jumping on for saying there was an LOA for southern. It'll pass. Southern is starved out. They'll take anything. Atlas is not much better off.

07-21-2018 | 10:55 PM

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Bad reliability equals more cost...

07-21-2018 | 11:00 PM

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to me seems like replacement for 747-400's

You could replace SOME 747s with 777s, but there are many situations where a 747 is better than, or the only option, compared to the 777. I taled to an airfreight mgr from HKG. He said the best option for a long haul operator who wanted large aircraft would be a mix of 777 and 747-8s.

07-21-2018 | 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBsINtheHOOD

With this purchase , DHL is amending it`s business plan away from wet leased , expensive 747F type operations to a more owned and in house operation. Operators like Kalitta , Polar and Southern have just seen their negotiating leverage reduce drastically.

DHL owns 49% of Polar, so half of Polar profits go to DHL.

07-22-2018 | 04:49 AM

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if you read the quotes from dhl they talk about using the 777's to replace older less fuel efficient less carbon producing aircraft

to me they are describing 400's-thats just the way I read it

07-22-2018 | 05:52 AM

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if you read the quotes from dhl they talk about using the 777's to replace older less fuel efficient less carbon producing aircraft

to me they are describing 400's-thats just the way I read it

Only in certain situations. There's plenty of room for both aircraft in the cargo world. The 777 carries measurably less cargo than even the 400 let alone the -8. However on routes where you can't quite fill a -400 its for sure a lot more efficient. It would be difficult to have any twin engine freighter compete against a four engine one simply because of the engine-out performance penalty. If you want to haul a LOT of goods a 747 is the only way to go. That's not to say there isn't situations where a smaller gauge aircraft wouldn't be better.