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Old 06-25-2018, 06:48 PM
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The Teamsters are pushing the pilots at NAC to sign the CBA they’ve agreed on with the company, which involves significantly lower pay than other 767 freight operators and no home-basing. They’ve raised the 737 pay enough that it will probably get voted in, but just for good measure, they’re telling the members that if we don’t vote to ratify, we’ll have to throw out the whole CBA, start from scratch, and it’ll be at least two years until we see a new agreement. Smells like BS to many of us. It sure seems that when the Teamsters are done negotiating, they’re done. If you don’t like it, you can pound sand.

To anyone considering working here, be ready to pay for a crash pad that you’ll spend most of the month at, all while making a lot less than your peers across the ramp. Seriously, just go work elsewhere. This place has nothing to offer a new hire if you don’t live in HNL or ANC.
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So what do they want to pay for 76 guys?
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Sounds like your negotiating committee is pretty inept. This sounds like the same scenario at ATI ......change the name to ALPA.
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So what do they want to pay for 76 guys?
Captain:
Year 1: $160. Year 12: $230

FO:
Year 1: $84. Year 12: $162

Considering it’s a new operation and we only have 3 767s I think economies of scale come in to play with this pay scale.
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Captain:
Year 1: $160. Year 12: $230

FO:
Year 1: $84. Year 12: $162

Considering it’s a new operation and we only have 3 767s I think economies of scale come in to play with this pay scale.
Sure. That doesn’t change the fact that they’re competing for the same new-hires as the competition, who have higher pay and home-basing.

We did better on the 737 than the Miami guys did overall, but it’s still the same base pay we have right now, with the bonus rolled in. So excuse me if I don’t put up the victory banner. Most people I talk to here in ANC aren’t exactly thrilled, either.
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You’re not competing for the same new hires. There is always someone willing to do the job. As an employer you just have to be willing to let them do the job.

If it doesn’t make sense, think about it.
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You’re not competing for the same new hires. There is always someone willing to do the job. As an employer you just have to be willing to let them do the job.

If it doesn’t make sense, think about it.
And you get what you pay for...failed training attempts, dui's, criminal records......
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808 View Post
Captain:
Year 1: $160. Year 12: $230

FO:
Year 1: $84. Year 12: $162

Considering it’s a new operation and we only have 3 767s I think economies of scale come in to play with this pay scale.
You should always fight for the best contract possible and I don't know where you started, but those rates are a lot higher that Atlas 76 rates!
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You should always fight for the best contract possible and I don't know where you started, but those rates are a lot higher that Atlas 76 rates!
That's 12$ more per hr than a concessionary 9 yr old contract at ABXAir for 12 yr Captain pay.
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Vote no and let the pilot shortage work it’s magic for you. It’s worked well everywhere else when the pilot group holds firm.
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