Originally Posted by johnny150 (Post 2664938)

No wonder ABX cat retain qualified pilots, they won’t even give the crews Known Crew Member.

Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 2664550)

Flying well, and not crashing, are two very different things.

Originally Posted by captfred (Post 2664791)

What happened?

Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2665176)

Originally Posted by JackStraw
Must be solid recruits. At least you haven’t let one cr*sh a 767 like Atlas did.



Description of incident here. Synopsis: 767-300 carrying US Troops from overseas landed hard at PSM in calm, clear weather and creased the fuselage. Some say it just needs a BIG roll of speed tape. ;)
Accident: Atlas B763 at Portsmouth on Jul 27th 2018, hard landing

One rumor was that the FO, on his IOE, performed the landing. Not sure that was ever confirmed.

Originally Posted by johnny150 (Post 2664938)

No wonder ABX can’t t retain qualified pilots, they won’t even give the crews Known Crew Member.


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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2665224)

You think that is why pilots are quitting?

Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 2665218)

That has happened several times before to 763’s. Later production tails had additional fuselage stringers added to prevent that exact problem. Here’s a good video showing what leads to the creasing.
https://youtu.be/Jw-aUVa3a0U

Originally Posted by johnny150 (Post 2665254)

According to some that have quit yes, it Is a small piece of the pie but people have mentioned that among a long list of other items...

Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2665262)

For sure the tail quits flying about 85kts.

Originally Posted by Reactivity (Post 2665270)

If they had a long list, then KCM didn't make a difference one way or the other. It's not the thing that would have kept them at ABX, and it's not the thing that would have driven them away if everything else had been perfect. It's just another thing to complain about on the way out the door.